Reply With QuoteI actually that hope we remain in the EU, I couldn't think of a more fitting reward for all of the lefties on here. We should just capitulate, join the single currency and European army, etc.. Just do whatever they want
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To quote Vyvian from the young ones in the Bambi episode ‘I’m completely bloody sick of this’ in regards to USA politics.
We’ve got this impending disaster/salivation depending on your viewpoint less then 5 months away.
Watching Yvette Cooper yesterday in Parlimentary select committee made me realise Labour missed an opportunity not electing her leader as I think they’d be miles ahead in polls.
Basically she was questioning the lack of planning at Border control. Which is highly ironic on the part of the Govt and leavers as Brexit was supposed to be about taking control of borders......
I actually that hope we remain in the EU, I couldn't think of a more fitting reward for all of the lefties on here. We should just capitulate, join the single currency and European army, etc.. Just do whatever they want
The lack of planning everywhere is incredibly disturbing, but it will probably be visible most quickly at the ports.
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I actually that hope we remain in the EU, I couldn't think of a more fitting reward for all of the lefties on here. We should just capitulate, join the single currency and European army, etc.. Just do whatever they want
Shocking isn’t it? Every day something is in the news which makes me think ‘what the ****??’
If you want to dig a little deeper on where we are and where we might be headed then some of Ivan Rogers's recent speeches are intelligent and thought provoking without being weighed down by dogma.
http://www.britishirishchamber.com/2...l-gala-dinner/
I don't even know where to start with this rubbishI actually that hope we remain in the EU, I couldn't think of a more fitting reward for all of the lefties on here. We should just capitulate, join the single currency and European army, etc.. Just do whatever they want
I've just described your European wet dream, and I sincerely hope is comes to pass
You have no idea what you are talking about.I've just described your European wet dream, and I sincerely hope is comes to pass
Shameless Remainers out in force again desperately hoping that the referendum vote is usurped by any means necessary.
Don’t think I said that in my original message.
I think as we head towards your utopia I do find it hard to believe that we have a PM refusing to guarantee medical supplies in terms of a no deal Brexit.
Still Brexit means Brexit and it’s one in the eye for Liberal elites like myself eh?
'Any means necessary' is a bit melodramatic, they want another vote as they think public opinion might have changed as new information has been brought to people's attention.
Why should there be any shame in wanting to remain in the EU?
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...80943?mode=amp
This seems like a lot of business to lose
Project fear, stop it
Oh yes I do, and if we ever manage to Brexit I hope the government will slash the number of useless civil servants, especially those who expect me to pay for their fecking travelling time!
What would that have to do with Brexit? We could do that now if we were stupid enough to follow through on populist right wing ideas
Have you seen Split, the film with James McAvoy?
You would have to be pretty short on brain cells to not realise that Brexit done 'well' means more civil servants and more travelling.
What's the view on these excessive wages and pensions , I note its fashionable to bash CEO's :
Jean-Claude Juncker, 61, President of the European Commission
Salary: £245,629 plus a residential allowance of £36,844 and a monthly expense allowance of £1,135. Pension of £52,500 for life from age 65.
Donald Tusk, 59, President of the European Council
Salary: £235,000 a year plus allowances and pension.
Martin Schulz, 60, President of the European Parliament
Salary: £227,000 plus allowances and pension.
Mario Draghi, 68, President of the European Central Bank
Salary: £279,576 plus allowances and pension.
Federica Mogherini, 42, High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy (informally known as the EU foreign minister)
Salary: £215,000 plus allowances and pension.
Jonathan Hill, 55, One of 28 EU Commissioners
Salary: £195,000 plus allowances and pension.
The standard monthly payment for all MEPs is 7,957 euros (£6,537). It is roughly on a par with a British MP's salary, but when the pound is weak, MEPs earn more than MPs. MEPs also get a flat-rate monthly allowance of 4,299 euros to cover office expenses, such as office rent, phone bills and computer equipment.
The EU is trying to over-charge Britain for its share of Eurocrats' pensions to the tune of €7bn (£6.2bn), it has been claimed, even as European capitals continue to squeeze the UK over the so-called Brexit bill.
British Brexit negotiators are questioning EU calculations over the size of pension liabilities - listed as some €67bn in the EU accounts - of which the UK share would be around €11bn on the point of exit.
The salaries are high no doubt .
It’s worth pointing out though and hate to answer a question with a question but do you think Liam ‘trade deal easiest in history’ David ‘we hold the cards’ Davis before buggering off having achieved nothing, Boris Matheus can go whistle’ Johnson before again buggering off have served us well with the wages they’re on?
What we you say about Barnier he’s done his job in a professional manner representing his members without resorting to shit analogies and lies just to appeal to the right wing press.
The Brexit negotiators have been giving it the big come on then if you’re hard enough before looking rather silly and the reputation of the UK has been damaged by this costly farce with each week which has cost us far more then the ‘Eurocrats’ (copyright any crap Sun headline) wages.
I can’t remember anything about ‘adequate’ food supplies on the side of a red bus can you?
On the high side but that is from the perspective of somebody who lives in a country which has seen a real terms wage decrease/stagnation (depending on what figures you believe) for at least 10 years.
Conflating a 240k salary with criticisms of corporate greed over CEOs that take home £10s of millions while their companies are in decline is a bit mad.
It was probably easier to post the link to the Daily Telegraph article on which the argument that after a couple of years negotiation we are suddenly quibbling about the pension liabilities as part of our financial settlement in the Withdrawal Agreement.
I am sure I heard from Theresa May that we were 95% there on the Withdrawal Agreement. If this has suddenly become an issue I presume we have the negotiating power to dig our heels in. Perhaps this is one of the reasons our well-paid negotiator Dominic Raab sent a letter stating that a deal would be made by 21 November and then had to do a U turn hours later. Any difference between his and Barnier's salary is probably a competence bonus.
In terms of the leading question, what's my view on these excessive wages, they are relatively high for public servants but definitely very low for CEOs and other senior directors who are managing similar sized organisations often with less complexity. Here are the salaries of the directors of Carillion as an example.
https://news.sky.com/story/carillion...ilure-11209838
Dont give upI actually that hope we remain in the EU, I couldn't think of a more fitting reward for all of the lefties on here. We should just capitulate, join the single currency and European army, etc.. Just do whatever they want
we can have a vote and decide again
then if they dont get the right vote, we can vote till they do
You realise that the vote isnt random right? If remain wins a second vote then it means people have changed their mind, it is called democracy.Dont give up
we can have a vote and decide again
then if they dont get the right vote, we can vote till they do
If you are one of these Brexiteers who would want to leave even if the public no longer want to then you are no better than a remainer who wants to stay by 'any means necessary'.
The leave campaign promised something undeliverable and there is no getting away from that.
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