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As for the mental health/gang thing, well if my family member was dead then it would make little difference to me but as an ordinary citizen I would know I'm less likely to be targetted by a gang member than someone with mental health problems. One will discriminate his victims, one won't. So I don't know where you're going with that.
It made a difference in the U.K. and Australia didn’t it?
The problem might be the US is too far gone but not being able to walk into a shop and just buy a gun would definitely lower shootings.
The people doing mass shootings aren’t career criminals who’d buy a guns off the black market they’re mentally ill people who’ve just grabbed it out of their parents closet.
A country with poor care of mental health + legal purchase of guns = lots of mass shootings.
At the end of the day do you really need stats to back up that it’s easier to kill lots of people with a gun than a knife?
I didn’t say that. My point is, we are very quick to condemn the yanks and there gun laws. But we have our own problems over here as well with knives and guns( albeit on a smaller scale). At least the yanks hand out large clink sentences. You can murrder someone in cold blood over here at the age of 20, and be back on the streets before your 30. Anyway, that’s another discussion.
So because we have some murders we can’t discuss them having a really high murder rate that’s caused by easy access to guns?
"Over here it’s illegal to carry guns and take drugs, but there’s more of both on the streets right now than ever." is not an opinion.
When I give the official murder stats, that is not an opinion.
I'm sure that stats aren't 100% reliable and are subject to massaging, but I don't believe for half a second that they're so wrong that the UK murder rate is higher than the US. That's ludicrous.
As I said before, this whole thing of saying something without any evidence and following it up with I-believe-it's-true-so-that's-that is not only a problem in this country but exactly what Trump is trying to get away with (and is getting away with) in the US.
If I wanted to buy a gun with the hope of killing someone and getting away with it, i.e. without forensics finding that it was one I'd bought it the week before, then no I would have absolutely no idea how to do that.
The yanks have very different laws in different states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimin...ing_of_killers
And to be honest, I think we have every right to condemn the yanks and their gun laws, as they have hundreds of mass shootings every year and we've had (I think I'm right in saying) three ever.
Three would be hungerford, dunblane and Whitehaven?
I think the USA definition is more than 4 people shot not including the shooter or something like that.
I would imagine that there must have been some incidents during the troubles that would fall into that category, wasn't there a pub that was shot up by one side or other (can't remember which). Maybe they don't count those for some reason.
If it is just that three then they were in 87, 93 and 2010
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loughinisland_massacre
In northern Ireland, 6 people killed by uvf terrorists.
1994.
That 87-94 period was definitely the worst period for mass shootings in the UK. Since the law changed there has been one in 24 years.
Total coincidence but we've also never had a mass shooting under a labour government it seems
So while Brits are getting upset and angry on the Yanks behalf, why don’t they vote to outlaw guns in the states? Answer.- Because they don’t want to. Simple.
Please drop me the details of how to buy a gun over hear , as i have no idea ,i do though know they sell them openly in USA shops AND very dangerous knives ( far worse than ours ) their drug trade is a billion times worse ,I'm astonished you are comparing the two countries in any shape or form ,thankfully so would a majority of like minded people in the UK .