Originally Posted by
surge
But I don't think you did. I invited you to come to a collective agreement about what are the characteristics of the elite are and you said it was a topic for another thread. I then said, as a general point, we should be mindful that many saying "the elite are ignoring you" are in fact elite themselves and the ones offering you least in return and then we parted ways agreeing it was a bigger subject and for another thread. You then came to the above conclusion.
To comment further on what you've introduced now:
I'm not saying that the general publics understanding of the EU is poor however when one of the leaders of project leave, our former foreign secretary and future Prime Minister uses Gatt 24 as part of his exit strategy then has to admit, when gently pressed, that he doesn't understand it I would think it's fair to assume many people are largely ignorant about the EU. I don't think that is limited to people who voted for leave. For the record, I would say that this is the first time I have implied you are ignorant but I am doing so simply by including you as part of a collective and, in my opinion, a majority. However what I think you're feeling, feeling that I have said you're ignorant several times before, is related to a tactic that Farage seems to employ (telling others they have been judged or viewpoints dismissed) rather than defend/explain his policy ideas.
Perhaps this is part of the problem though. I feel I have been very respectful that you have different views but you seem to have got the idea that I have said those in deprived areas don't care about the country or people with a different opinion to me are stupid, ill educated or wicked. I don't know why we've talked without understanding but I am sorry that we have and I'm also sorry that you feel Trump (don't pretend he doesn't tell people what to think because no one was chanting "lock her up" before he got on stage) would treat you with greater respect that I have in this thread.