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The thing is Croesy we have raised a younger generation, the majority of which, is unable to debate with anyone who has a different view from themselves. Where are the school debating societies we older generation had where reasoned thoughts for a particular view could be expressed and debated?
Now if anyone dare hold a different view they can't cope and resort to being critical of the person because they don't have the faculties of debating. Clearly not all would fall into this category but, after over 30 years of teaching, it concerns me greatly what the education system is increasingly producing.
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I thought messageboards were the place to air grievances, worries & indeed praise & compliments. Obviously extremes either way are open to ridicule. Fanzines & then messageboards have become a breath of fresh air in enabling us to question the club/manager/players. The days of the club programme being the ultimate ‘everything’s ok’ propaganda machine and a piss poor 4th division team running out embarrassingly to ‘Simply The Best’ are long gone thank God.
League position wise we are 4 places above where we were when Warnock took over.
Yes, he took us up and did a great job doing so but we also came straight back down and at times during the relegation was found wanting. Fulham away being the glaring example.
Announcing he will retire at the end of this season has harmed our recruiting drive I feel. Why would a player sign for a club and manager where they might be surplus to requirements in 9 months time? I also think it has had a negative effect on the mental side of the players at the club also. The announcement and the timing of it has created uncertainty and a negative air when it wasn't needed.
The reasons I think he should have walked at the end of last season were -
1) I think that his brand of football has been (or is well on the way to being) found out and nullified with ease.
2) He does not seem to have a plan B when we are nullified and seemingly get beaten when teams work us out.
3) The time he is here now is time that could be used by another manager to assess what is here and work out what he needs to bring in. Let's be honest when Warnock goes there will be a manager who wants to play a different way and it will be a case of rip it up and start again. Warnock's swan song season was ideally seen as one where he would challenge for yet another promotion.
Put bluntly if we do not look like getting a promotion then leaving Warnock at the helm is wasting time that could be used a lot better by the next man in. People say be careful what you wish for but he is going in May regardless so surely the decision on a new man will be made at some point in the near future anyway. Whether I have faith in those in power positions at the club to pick a competent successor is another thing entirely though. I think Warnock's appointment and subsequent success was a stroke of luck and an exception to the rule given what they picked prior to him.
Amazing, isn't it? I mean, how can any Cardiff City fan possibly have anything but undying loyalty for a man who has previously managed Gainsborough Trinity, Burton Albion, Scarborough, Notts County, Torquay United, Huddersfield Town, Plymouth Argyle, Oldham Athletic, Bury, Sheffield United, Crystal Palace, QPR, Leeds United and Rotherham United?
It's madness, I tell you, madness.
The average age of this board must be about 50 and the older ones are the ones who can't debate without crying.
I bet your parents and grandparents were saying the same about your generation at the time too, don't fall into the trap of repeating this ridiculous stereotype.
Excellent points . It's exactly the same group of kids who can't be civil in a discussion and who know bugger all about football except what they've picked up from tv pundits and playing that computer game they seem to like.
Mind you, that performance was atrocious and there are big problems with the team, but Sir Neil knows enough about the game to put that right and he deserves our support for what he's done for the club even when things don't go smoothly.
I've been a huge fan of NW. As someone posted earlier, last season was a pass.
However, how many players has he signed and they're soon surplus to requirements? It seems we have to buy 4 to get one good one.
A multi million £ winger who can't get on the pitch. A full back loaned out. 2 forwards who can't get a game etc etc. Is it all down to the players?
If we win 4 games on trot he'll be the messiah again.
Its the manner in which we are losing worries me.
NW said he'll go at the end of the season. A few more defeats and our season will be over.
Why wait?
Just to add, it’s not just because we are losing either. I think there are more than a few who can see the problem with our team/performances when we won as well.
Why does he deserve our support now? He got us promoted which was great, but then he got us relegated which was not. Now we're sitting near the foot of the table. How long do we have to wait after one dismal season in the EPL before we're allowed to voice our displeasure at our current situation?