Reply With QuoteWhy? YesOriginally Posted by life on mars
Why now? No
Hope that helps.
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The question to answer : does Labour harbour anti antisemitism behaviors if so why,and why now ????????
Yes or no will do
Why? Yes
Why now? No
Hope that helps.
Just because it was an open goal there was no need to break the back of the net!
I've got no loyalty to any political party so trying to compare BoJo's jokes about pillar boxes with the hollocaust is a bit wasted on me.
Since you ask, I'm more concerned about anti semitism than most other forms of racism for the simple reason that it's the only one backed by a political party and the only one which can so easily ramp up to genocide, as it has before.
Btw, it's ALL hearsay unless someone here personally witnessed it. I'm not gong to start listing examples because there's a whole investigation you can read, including the statements of victims and quotes from Mr Corbyn and others.
Very rarely prosecuted since you ask. There's no money in it you see, and these days it's done by the CPS anyway.Bet you he was a prosecutor when he was a high powered lawyer. Probably a bit too young for the McCarthy era though.
There we have it socalism in denial ,it used to be such a proud fair, inclusive institution, now its bitter and nasty and isolated .
It's interesting then that after those BoJo's comments, hate crimes against Muslims rose "375% in the week following". An actual, factual example of the consequences of his words. You can't care too much about oppression if you're belittling that fact.
I've got to laugh at this comment - "I'm more concerned about anti semitism than most other forms of racism for the simple reason that it's the only one backed by a political party". Really? You honestly think the Labour party is backing anti-semitism - and if that's the case - you're just going to completely ignore alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the examples of racism from the other parties - BNP and UKIP aren't backing racism? F**k off
What are you talking about now?
No
Ask Dorcus .
I'm asking you, since it was you who posted it.
Dorcus's last post in this thread was:
Because just about all of them have playdough for brains
You posted:
There we have it socalism in denial ,it used to be such a proud fair, inclusive institution, now its bitter and nasty and isolated .
Might be tricky to join the dots on this for some I suppose!
They dont back it they dont deal with it , even Kier Starmer McDonnell recognises it ,as does the Human Rights Commision and the Met , aling with numerous suspensions and investigations .It's interesting then that after those BoJo's comments, hate crimes against Muslims rose "375% in the week following". An actual, factual example of the consequences of his words. You can't care too much about oppression if you're belittling that fact.
I've got to laugh at this comment - "I'm more concerned about anti semitism than most other forms of racism for the simple reason that it's the only one backed by a political party". Really? You honestly think the Labour party is backing anti-semitism - and if that's the case - you're just going to completely ignore alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the examples of racism from the other parties - BNP and UKIP aren't backing racism? F**k off
FFS its okay to reognise fault , the same can be said of tge loopy nasty Tories .
It's time to show responsibility acceptance , and find a fix .
This not an allusion or fake news when independent organisation have cause to investigate, the parties headquarters staff support the fact nasty cultures exists within a Panorama investigation.
Countless Jewish MP resignations.
Actual Social Media quotes .
Fake news it ain't.
You've responded to me instead of RonnieB there - he's the one stating that Labour are "backing" anti-semitism.
What did the investigations uncover, if you don't mind me asking? It's pertinent as you and one or two others one here have been saying for a while that a particular investigation was nothing but a witch hunt, if I'm not mistaken.
I have absolutely no idea how much of an issue anti-semitism is within the Labour party and neither do you.
Both Met and HRC investigations are ongoing as is Labours internal investigations mechanisms .
That's great news. Perhaps we can wait for the outcome of those investigations before concluding what's going on behind closed doors.
If the investigations prove systematic anti-semitism within the Labour party then I'll be the first one to condemn them on here.
I simply don't have the complete set of life learning skills that you were gifted with, and I think its not healthy to hang onto or follow every single point of view and comment one may make ,ita called obsession.
It seems weird that labour are simultaneously plotting the next holocaust and investigating antisemitism within the party.
They were all your thoughts.. not mine. If you can't explain them then it has little to do with my "life learning skills", whatever they are!
The lunatics and liars in Parliament decided they 'knew' that Johnson didn't want to get a deal.
Perhaps they could have waited for the outcome of the Brexit negotiations with the EU, before concluding what was going on behind closed doors.
They wanted to know the ins and outs of a cat's arse, whilst negotiations were ongoing.
What planet were they on?
Who discusses openly with the whole world, the negotiations that are going on behind closed doors.
They lied, stating there were no negotiations and that Johnson was the one lying.
They lied about Johnson not wanting a deal.
They lied, stating he wanted to leave without a deal.
They were scaremongering, as usual and feeding the intellectually inept the bullshit rhetoric they craved.
He's got a deal.
It's not a perfect deal for everyone, as that is an impossibility.
The lunatics with the pitchforks in Parliament, voted to take away the best and most important negotiating tool Britain had in taking no deal off the table.
By the very nature of the outcome of the referendum, remain should be taken off the table, as it should not be in the sights of any MP, apart from SNP, Lib Dems and those whose constituents voted to remain.
Now who do you believe?
Johnson or the scaremongering bullshitters?
It's interesting then that after those BoJo's comments, hate crimes against Muslims rose "375% in the week following". An actual, factual example of the consequences of his words. You can't care too much about oppression if you're belittling that fact.
I've got to laugh at this comment - "I'm more concerned about anti semitism than most other forms of racism for the simple reason that it's the only one backed by a political party". Really? You honestly think the Labour party is backing anti-semitism - and if that's the case - you're just going to completely ignore alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the examples of racism from the other parties - BNP and UKIP aren't backing racism? F**k off
Well no. As I told you, I don't support any party so I'm not defending any of them and thus it's not my job to justify whatever they might have said. However , in the real world, anti semitism is potentially far more serious than - for example - Bulgarian yobbos being impolite to football players or someone telling banned jokes. Why's that ? Because it can quickly result in death camps and genocide.
The reason I say that the Monster Raving New Labour Party is backing anti semitism is because senior, albeit comedic ,members of that Party defend or deny it instead of committing to stop it. Yes, some have objected to it and some have resigned about it, but it's shocking to many people that the leadership won't acknowledge the problem.
Look, Jews have taken active roles in that party, but a lot of Jewish people I know tell me they won't ever vote labour again and they do talk quite seriously about the possible escalation of this poison . Some have left the country, and many more have quiet plans to do that if labour ger into power. When that's happening, and it is, it's certainly a problem.
As I said, I wouldn't vote for any main party , but if I did this would be enough to stop me voting labour and I'd hope that would be the case for a lot of decent people who regard these things as perhaps the thin end of the wedge.
I don't mind what words people use or what jokes they tell, but anyone who wants to start actually hurting people because of their race will have a big problem from me
At the very least, this list should show a few Labour critics in this thread that they should not be as supportive of Donald Trump and his party as they are if they are to maintain consistency with their approach regarding Corbyn or Labour - I'd say the list is, at the very least, as much of a problem on the political right as it is on the left.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeli...e_21st_century
"Bulgarian yobbos being impolite to football players" - Are you f**king kidding me? You say you're against all forms of racism yet call racist abuse by neo-Nazis towards black people "being impolite".
Remember when you were talking about being "objective". Your hatred for socialism is completely blinding you from being able to be objective.
You keep talking about another holocaust and other forms of violence towards Jewish people because of Labour but this is completely speculative on your part. Has any Jewish person been physically harmed because of Labour?
You have failed to condemn actual racist behaviour where people have been harmed and suffered other forms of hate crimes due to the language and actions of politicians from other parties.
TOBW's link is very timely as you've praised Donald Trump in the past yet MAGA racists have attacked Synagogues and Jewish people in the States... Maybe you'll show Trump the same respect as Corbyn in future?).
You're very transparent for someone who keeps telling everyone
else that they're brainwashed and uneducated.
You're transparency is essential summed up by this:
Socialism = bad
Everything else = not socialism, so not bad.
Well that last bit is about right actually.
ALL politicians are liars and crooks and their various schemes and plans are ALL faulted .
I have no belief in ANY of them , but of the various options available socialism is the most dangerous and harmful . It is corrosive to the brain and morality and seeks to inflict it's cranky theories on everyone whether they like it or not.
In fact, it's colonialism of the mind. Just as successive empires have insisted that its justifiable to force compliance upon those they invade and kill because it benefits them in the long run, socialism insists that others accept their theories whether they like it or not because some imagined , ( but never delivered), benefit will result.
Experience has shown that socialists will not stop at anything to enforce these stupid theories upon others, often resulting in many deaths and great suffering. Similarly , experience has shown that anti semitism can quickly become genocide when weaponised by fanatical politicians. Put these two things together and you have a dangerous mixture, so it's perfectly sensible to be concerned about this situation.
You say I'm transparent. Well I hope so - I've got absolutely no hidden agenda and what I say is what I mean - in this case that socialism is an evil and dangerous philosophy which should be regarded with great suspicion by anyone who regards human liberties and individuality as important.
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