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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Very interesting, however why would you dig up endless roads in rural areas when 5g will deliver that service .

    Our problem with broadband is not in the cities its the rurals so I can, t see why we would invest so much money in a technology that maybe superceed.

    Lets be fair this is just another headline grabber.

    Just concentrate on real needs social care , NHS, school's, policing, transport ,and environment, anything else isca vanity project and media bait.
    Lots of rural areas don't even have 4g yet...

    Just to put things into perspective, the policy of the conservative party is to throw some cash at some private companies to try and do the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Lots of rural areas don't even have 4g yet...

    Just to put things into perspective, the policy of the conservative party is to throw some cash at some private companies to try and do the same thing.
    Its a waste of public money ,build some hospitals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Its a waste of public money ,build some hospitals.
    I forgot we can only pay for one thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Don't get you
    "has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?"

    "They already do don't they?"

    "He means Labour" - as in "he only cares if a Labour government were controlling what people could or couldn't see on the internet."

    I thought it was self-explanatory, sorry

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    Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Very interesting, however why would you dig up endless roads in rural areas when 5g will deliver that service .

    Our problem with broadband is not in the cities its the rurals so I can, t see why we would invest so much money in a technology that maybe superceed.

    Lets be fair this is just another headline grabber.

    Just concentrate on real needs social care , NHS, school's, policing, transport ,and environment, anything else isca vanity project and media bait.
    I can't get a f**king mobile phone signal in parts of Rumney and you think rural areas are getting 5g?!

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    We are behind Madagascar with fast Broadband availability for Gods sake. This is a radical idea and I like it. So much negativity about this.
    If a socialist Government post war can make a success of the NHS then there is no reason why Broadband fee for all nationwide cannot work. This will speed up the way we work for so many people bringing about an increase in productivity. It will pay for itself.

    No doubt the Tories will continue to trash this initiative then at the next election include it as one of their own policies just like they did with Ed Miliband’s energy cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Its a waste of public money ,build some hospitals.

    Of course it’s not. It will speed up the way many people are able to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    answer to Eric
    They can't though Eric. Since it first occurred to the Ancient Romans to import grain from Egypt and hand it out free to the Plebs,( the Dole), such ideas have sometimes achieved a short term aim for transient rulers ,but ended in total ****ing disaster a little way down the line. Following Marx , socialism and Nazism took the idea to new levels of lunacy and the result was even worse.
    They don't want to help anyone , they want to control them because they'll be indebted to the state, and in the end the state isn't capable of sustaining it because it just spends without creating anything.
    Once they've spent everything there are unprecedented shortages and deprivation.

    - just watching Corby exposing his scheme, and I'm afraid he's clearly ****ing mental .
    Were you drunk when you posted this nonsense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    In the wonderful whacky world proposed by Corby there'll be free nationalised broadband to while away your extra free time during the reduced working week .
    Ignoring the fact that it'll actually have to be paid for by some poor bugger, and that it's a bit strange to provide free broadband when you're making people pay for water, has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?
    I believe the plan is to finally claim some taxation from the tech giants that avoid tax. If they are, as it, some poor bugger, then I await what you call someone who struggles to maintain meaningful employment despite working as hard as they can.

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    Well , some of the poor buggers in question would be elderly people whose pension funds hold stock in these tech giants , but of course the tech giants you speak of would just move to China.

    It will infuriate the gang of three when I say that I was chatting with a BBC correspondent this evening and we agreed that only 20 years ago this single policy would have ended Corby's chances of election, but we wondered whether dumbing down might mean that the idea could be taken seriously.

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    I see the know everything about everything trio have given this idea the thumbs down. No surprise there then, after all a bunch of old men who have probably just about mastered texting are, surely, best qualified to pass judgement on this plan. However, speaking as an old man who has been left behind somewhat by the digital revolution myself, this sounds an honourable aim to me which is, almost certainly doomed to failure because of entrenched attitudes which think solely in terms of the, failed, economics of the last forty years - the irony is that next month will probably see the election of the most right wing Government of our lifetimes , more than likely with a majority, at a time when we are all still feeling the effects of the failures of capitalism.

    I may be partially responsible for this in my own small way because I'm far from certain to vote for the only other party that can, realistically, be expected to form a Government , but I'm a little more likely to vote Labour today than I was on Thursday because of this policy.

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    Johnson thinks it's a "crazed communist scheme"

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKBN1XP1DY

    I'm liking this idea more every minute .

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Johnson thinks it's a "crazed communist scheme"

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKBN1XP1DY

    I'm liking this idea more every minute .
    Imagine if we were talking about libraries. Books...for free??? Haha crazy communist, completely unachievable.

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    Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Imagine if we were talking about libraries. Books...for free??? Haha crazy communist, completely unachievable.
    Although the Tories have history for throwing around political labels in an attempt to frighten Joe and Joanne Public who don't know what they mean, but know they are supposed to be 'bad'. Ed Milliband's plans for a cap on energy prices was denounced as Marxist or quasi-Marxist state intervention (depending on source) but ended up in Theresa May's Conservative Party Manifesto two years later!

    It is either gross hypocrisy or (like the alt-right gang on here) they don't know the meaning of the words they use.

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    Who are the "alt right" gang here then ?
    I ask you in your capacity as a member of the "alt wrong" faction.

    I don't think libraries were a labour idea were they ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Who are the "alt right" gang here then ?
    I ask you in your capacity as a member of the "alt wrong" faction.

    I don't think libraries were a labour idea were they ?
    I didn't say they were, are you unable to consider a broader point without party political attachment?

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    Well yes Eric. I'm not a conservative ,as I keep saying , but it's assumed that if you think one party is bad, it can only be because you're keen on the other. That's an awful reflection upon how much people are brainwashed into accepting Hobson's choice in politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Well yes Eric. I'm not a conservative ,as I keep saying , but it's assumed that if you think one party is bad, it can only be because you're keen on the other. That's an awful reflection upon how much people are brainwashed into accepting Hobson's choice in politics.
    You are the one bringing parties into this not me... I think all political parties should be doing whatever they can to try and bring UK infrastructure into the 21st century.

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    Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Well yes Eric. I'm not a conservative ,as I keep saying , but it's assumed that if you think one party is bad, it can only be because you're keen on the other. That's an awful reflection upon how much people are brainwashed into accepting Hobson's choice in politics.
    Be happy you're in the old man brigade
    Not sure exactly what age you have to be to get into your club?, (60/65)? 60 in 17 months can I get an early entry? although I'll be happy enough to get to 60 in the 1st instance.

    I think I would have been happier to see either party, to add a levy to food giants and give a £30 food voucher to those who need it
    rather than give away a freebie which isn't a basic life requirement. Giving people a better internet connection seems more appealing to voters than giving an equivalent value in food to those who have none. and I'm sure those living in boxes all over the country are getting super excited at the prospect of a fibre cable connected to their cardboard box. Although from a government perspective, perhaps the thought of getting more people online for longer gives them more ability to keep on dumbing down.

    #Epstein didn't kill himself

    Anons knew.

    Enjoy the show.

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    Re: Free Broadband - latest insane policy from Labour

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    "has it occurred to anyone that this would mean that they'd control what people could or couldn't see or say on the Internet ?"

    "They already do don't they?"

    "He means Labour" - as in "he only cares if a Labour government were controlling what people could or couldn't see on the internet."

    I thought it was self-explanatory, sorry
    Yeah it's self-explanatory now that I realise you were trying to pigeon hole him by what he said, I don't do that, hence my confusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Yeah it's self-explanatory now that I realise you were trying to pigeon hole him by what he said, I don't do that, hence my confusion
    Pigeon hole him?! Nice one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Be happy you're in the old man brigade
    Not sure exactly what age you have to be to get into your club?, (60/65)? 60 in 17 months can I get an early entry? although I'll be happy enough to get to 60 in the 1st instance.

    I think I would have been happier to see either party, to add a levy to food giants and give a £30 food voucher to those who need it
    rather than give away a freebie which isn't a basic life requirement. Giving people a better internet connection seems more appealing to voters than giving an equivalent value in food to those who have none. and I'm sure those living in boxes all over the country are getting super excited at the prospect of a fibre cable connected to their cardboard box. Although from a government perspective, perhaps the thought of getting more people online for longer gives them more ability to keep on dumbing down.

    #Epstein didn't kill himself

    Anons knew.

    Enjoy the show.
    How interesting that you say that because I was thinking exactly the same about food banks and hungry people whilst I was driving this afternoon

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I see the know everything about everything trio have given this idea the thumbs down. No surprise there then, after all a bunch of old men who have probably just about mastered texting are, surely, best qualified to pass judgement on this plan. However, speaking as an old man who has been left behind somewhat by the digital revolution myself, this sounds an honourable aim to me which is, almost certainly doomed to failure because of entrenched attitudes which think solely in terms of the, failed, economics of the last forty years - the irony is that next month will probably see the election of the most right wing Government of our lifetimes , more than likely with a majority, at a time when we are all still feeling the effects of the failures of capitalism.

    I may be partially responsible for this in my own small way because I'm far from certain to vote for the only other party that can, realistically, be expected to form a Government , but I'm a little more likely to vote Labour today than I was on Thursday because of this policy.
    I'm sure you were always going to vote Labour and thats fine .

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Well yes Eric. I'm not a conservative ,as I keep saying , but it's assumed that if you think one party is bad, it can only be because you're keen on the other. That's an awful reflection upon how much people are brainwashed into accepting Hobson's choice in politics.
    Careful If you dont agree with the new Labour project, your constantly a Tory.

    One must learn not challenge the socialist, or there views.

    How one can be accused of being right wing by not feeling at ease with Corbyn is beyond me, there are millions of decent moderate social minded centralists, who think the same , and they wont vote for Labour or Tory on Dec 12th

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I'm sure you were always going to vote Labour and thats fine .
    You might be sure, I'm not. Brexit could have been handled differently and, between them, Labour and the Lib Dems are handing the election to a truly inept Prime Minister and governing party. I also would be very uncomfortable voting for a party that has been the subject of antisemitism allegations which, for me have at least an element of truth in them - the only way I think I'll vote Labour is if it comes down to a straight fight between them and the Conservatives that they have a chance of winning.

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