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    So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Far from perfect and we need a new leader but its labour for me , locally its the only party that can challenge the Tories , its a marginal seat and the gap is only 2000 votes

    No liberals standing , just greens so its a two way scrap

    Up the city

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    Still a don't know. I know there's a lot of talk about Labour losing seats in their heartlands, but, surely, that doesn't include Rhondda? Therefore, I don't think my vote will count for much anyway, but it'll be for one of Greens, Plaid or Labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Still a don't know. I know there's a lot of talk about Labour losing seats in their heartlands, but, surely, that doesn't include Rhondda? Therefore, I don't think my vote will count for much anyway, but it'll be for one of Greens, Plaid or Labour.
    Oh yes , lots of people who voted to leave in the valleys ......turkeys voting for Xmas basically ......will vote Tory of that I have no doubt

    Its incredible but given how ineffective corbyn is, labour are going to lose a lot of votes in the valleys

    Wether it transforms into losing seats is a moot point

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    I rejoined Labour last week after 6/7 years out - blame Ronnie - so Labour for me.

    My constituency was Labour in 2017 - but it was Jared O'Mara who was suspended and resigned the whip after a social media scandal and some other stuff that slipped past the vetting process. Before that it was Nick Clegg! This constituency always used to be Tory (it was held by Sir Irvine Patnick of Hillsborough infamy - he was the runner between No 10 and The Sun) before the Lib Dems got it with Yellow Tory votes. Locally Labour is saying it is neck and neck but I will be amazed if the Lib Dems don't take it back easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I rejoined Labour last week after 6/7 years out - blame Ronnie - so Labour for me.

    My constituency was Labour in 2017 - but it was Jared O'Mara who was suspended and resigned the whip after a social media scandal and some other stuff that slipped past the vetting process. Before that it was Nick Clegg! This constituency always used to be Tory (it was held by Sir Irvine Patnick of Hillsborough infamy - he was the runner between No 10 and The Sun) before the Lib Dems got it with Yellow Tory votes. Locally Labour is saying it is neck and neck but I will be amazed if the Lib Dems don't take it back easily.
    Lib dems ?

    God help us

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    I won't be voting 'cause it matters not who wins in my opinion. Plus not doing so serves as a protest against the powers that be who won't institute a real secret ballot.

    I won't be betting either as the bookies have a ludicrously low maximum liability.

    Lib Dems are generally priced at 1-3 to take Sheffield Hallam. Be lucky to find an outfit who'll take a wager of £250 on that outcome.

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    I plead the 5th amendment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    I plead the 5th amendment!
    The monster raving Looney party are not standing where you live

    I command you to vote green

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    Lib Dems I suppose , Labour have broken my heart , wish they hadn't said they will revoke article 50 though without seeking a democrat vote from the people first ,its a very unlikely Liberal stance .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Lib Dems I suppose , Labour have broken my heart , wish they hadn't said they will revoke article 50 though without seeking a democrat vote from the people first ,its a very unlikely Liberal stance .
    Jo Swindon took a leathering off Tory boy Andrew Neil , felt quite sorry for her but she voted for the disgraceful benefit reforms by the Tory government so I didn't feel sorry for her for long

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Lib Dems I suppose , Labour have broken my heart , wish they hadn't said they will revoke article 50 though without seeking a democrat vote from the people first ,its a very unlikely Liberal stance .
    Lib Dems

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    No one, seriously. I've heard nothing from any party that would make me get up, walk over to the skool in this bloody cold weather and put an X, different colour rosettes but no real choice, Looney tunes left, charlatan right, nothing of substance in the middle. It would have been Plaid Cymru but, how long you got

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    No one, seriously. I've heard nothing from any party that would make me get up, walk over to the skool in this bloody cold weather and put an X, different colour rosettes but no real choice, Looney tunes left, charlatan right, nothing of substance in the middle. It would have been Plaid Cymru but, how long you got
    Are you Cardiff north ?

    Every vote counts there , it's highly marginal

    If you don't vote labour and it goes Tory watch out for the most right wing government since Thatcher

    A hung parliament , which is the best labour can hope for , will at least pull back Boris and his public school boys from letting the free market run wild

    As for plaid they are a true socialist party but are directly pro independence and I could never vote for that

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Brexit hardman Steve Baker is my local MP.

    Labour came a clear second last time so will be voting for them.

    Pretty unlikely that they will win, but it is a remain constituency.

    It's the hope that kills you!

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Are you Cardiff north ?
    Yes
    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post

    Every vote counts there , it's highly marginal
    Currently Labour I think


    If you don't vote labour and it goes Tory watch out for the most right wing government since Thatcher

    A hung parliament , which is the best labour can hope for , will at least pull back Boris and his public school boys from letting the free market run wild

    If I voted Labour just to stop Boris and his public skool boys it's almost and endorsement for Corbyn and that isn't going to happen


    As for plaid they are a true socialist party but are directly pro independence and I could never vote for that
    Agree regarding the independence bit

    Labour for me, has to put together a team that can deliver centrist policies, I'm quite happy to pay a little more tax for good management of public funds, fee Wi-Fi, free pot noodles, free this, free that isn't good management, services cost and should be paid for, I said previously that I do not trust the Tories with the NHS, I wouldn't trust Dustbins lot with a penny on anything, their outrageous freebies promised, from a personal perspective I'd love Dustbins promise for the WASPI women, my wife is one of them but that ship has sailed IMO, I'll not vote again for anyone or anything ever (politically), it's a corrupt club and we aint in it and never will be.

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by Veg1960 View Post
    Brexit hardman Steve Baker is my local MP.

    Labour came a clear second last time so will be voting for them.

    Pretty unlikely that they will win, but it is a remain constituency.

    It's the hope that kills you!
    I can't see anything but a Tory majority myself but will be voting labour to try at least locally to dent the Tories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I won't be voting 'cause it matters not who wins in my opinion. Plus not doing so serves as a protest against the powers that be who won't institute a real secret ballot.

    I won't be betting either as the bookies have a ludicrously low maximum liability.

    Lib Dems are generally priced at 1-3 to take Sheffield Hallam. Be lucky to find an outfit who'll take a wager of £250 on that outcome.
    A protest.

    Ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
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    Agree regarding the independence bit

    Labour for me, has to put together a team that can deliver centrist policies, I'm quite happy to pay a little more tax for good management of public funds, fee Wi-Fi, free pot noodles, free this, free that isn't good management, services cost and should be paid for, I said previously that I do not trust the Tories with the NHS, I wouldn't trust Dustbins lot with a penny on anything, their outrageous freebies promised, from a personal perspective I'd love Dustbins promise for the WASPI women, my wife is one of them but that ship has sailed IMO, I'll not vote again for anyone or anything ever (politically), it's a corrupt club and we aint in it and never will be.
    Corbyn did well to hold back may but he should have stepped aside and allowed a more moderate face to take over , as it is his ego has made him think the country was going to elect a far left government

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    Re: So who are you voting for then ? Cards on the table

    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Jo Swindon took a leathering off Tory boy Andrew Neil , felt quite sorry for her but she voted for the disgraceful benefit reforms by the Tory government so I didn't feel sorry for her for long
    Literally applogised for that today I understand .

    Jo Swinson apologises for backing coalition's austerity policies

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y_to_clipboard

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    Swinson claimed she was 'forced' to vote the way she did as she was a government minister. What she meant was she chose to do so to maintain her higher ministerial pay and perks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    A protest.

    Ha!
    Dopey me had believed the secret ballot line I'd heard so often and that one's vote is between oneself and the ballot box. That was until the first time I bowled into a polling station to watch the clerk scribble numbers on my ballot paper. "What do those numbers represent?" I asked. "It's your number on the electoral roll," she replied. "So," I pressed, "my choice of candidate is easily identifiable then?" That nonplussed her. She pulled a face and glanced at her colleague with a "I think he might be pissed" expression. She did concede it would be possible for a third party to discover my and every other person's vote before adding "that would never happen". I implied she was remarkably gullible and she scowled again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Dopey me had believed the secret ballot line I'd heard so often and that one's vote is between oneself and the ballot box. That was until the first time I bowled into a polling station to watch the clerk scribble numbers on my ballot paper. "What do those numbers represent?" I asked. "It's your number on the electoral roll," she replied. "So," I pressed, "my choice of candidate is easily identifiable then?" That nonplussed her. She pulled a face and glanced at her colleague with a "I think he might be pissed" expression. She did concede it would be possible for a third party to discover my and every other person's vote before adding "that would never happen". I implied she was remarkably gullible and she scowled again.
    Dopey you for thinking that your not voting will serve as a very specific protest. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    Oh yes , lots of people who voted to leave in the valleys ......turkeys voting for Xmas basically ......will vote Tory of that I have no doubt

    Its incredible but given how ineffective corbyn is, labour are going to lose a lot of votes in the valleys

    Wether it transforms into losing seats is a moot point
    Not a chance. The Conservatives are toxic in the valleys and the Brexit Party will be standing there, that'll split the Brexit vote

    Talk of the Tories gaining Labour heartlands and former mining communities is wide of the mark, they tried the same strategy last time and failed miserably

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
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    Agree regarding the independence bit

    Labour for me, has to put together a team that can deliver centrist policies, I'm quite happy to pay a little more tax for good management of public funds, fee Wi-Fi, free pot noodles, free this, free that isn't good management, services cost and should be paid for, I said previously that I do not trust the Tories with the NHS, I wouldn't trust Dustbins lot with a penny on anything, their outrageous freebies promised, from a personal perspective I'd love Dustbins promise for the WASPI women, my wife is one of them but that ship has sailed IMO, I'll not vote again for anyone or anything ever (politically), it's a corrupt club and we aint in it and never will be.
    I think their current policies are very centrist. It's the Tories who are extremists

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    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Not a chance. The Conservatives are toxic in the valleys and the Brexit Party will be standing there, that'll split the Brexit vote

    Talk of the Tories gaining Labour heartlands and former mining communities is wide of the mark, they tried the same strategy last time and failed miserably
    Let's hope you're right. I can see the Labour vote reduced but I hope it's still enough to cling on to their seats. Hopefully tactical voting will ensure Plaid and the Lib Dems pick up a few off the Tories

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