Does Klopp have a point?

[dembethewarrior]

He makes a good point here imo

https://www.instagram.com/p/B73fd0Xo...=17irh3fofpq1r

[CardiffCitySince1927]

He makes a good point here imo

https://www.instagram.com/p/B73fd0Xo...=17irh3fofpq1r

No he doesn’t but of course you would agree with it. The statement caused uproar, not because the Liverpool XI isn’t turning up, teams are able to accept that. I know, under Warnock that’s how it was for instance as they want the players to focus on the more important competitions. However, the fact that his blasé attitude to the competition has gone so far that he has decided I’m not going to turn up. That is the disgrace that is undermining the Football Association, the FA Cup, Shrewsbury and all the other smaller teams.
Fatigue in players is natural when you are fighting on four fronts, but there is no such thing as managerial fatigue. He could’ve used his u23 manager to come up with the tactics and enforce them on the sideline. The fact that he simply cannot be bothered to turn up for 90 minutes for a single game at home - so it’s not like he has to even travel for miles and miles, that is the disgusting thing.
I think to stop this sort of behaviour they should out right ban them from the competition for a year or two or deduct them some points in the league. Obviously this is very extreme punishment-wise but it sends a stern message, a message that outlines the principles of the FA.

[DJ-Q]

He probably does have a point, but it would be intersting to see if he still had the same point if liverpool were not so far ahead in the premier league and the FA cup was their only chance of silverware this season.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

The Premier League voted for a mid season break as happens in some other countries. What's the point of having a break if fixtures are going to be shoved in it? I understand Klopp standing up for having this break. Yes, he could go to the match. Yes, it wouldn't take much effort. But if that then becomes expected of everyone during the short break, what's the point of having a break? None.

[Q]

No point what so ever. As a manager he should be there. He can pick the XI he wants.

And the break is a joke. They are playing the same number of matches but now in a shorter time frame

[MacAdder]

Disappointing stance really.
I think that he has let himself down and perhaps people might think of him differently after this.

It seems to me that he has been embarrassed by the Shrewsbury team, a game in which the opposition had more than enough chances to win.
He brought his big guns on and it didn't work.
Tactically he got it wrong and he is now paying the price.

Agree with the post above in that some kind of "proper" punishment should be dished out and also with the point that he is disrespecting the competition to an extent.
They won't though. It's the darlings of the world Liverpool we are talking about.

[The Lone Gunman]

Of course Klopp has a point and it's a very good one. There was no point whatsoever in the Football Association, the Premier League and the EFL agreeing to a winter break for the top flight clubs if they were going to schedule FA Cup replays in the middle of it.

When the plans for the winter break were officially agreed in June 2018, the Football Association described it as "a significant moment that will greatly benefit club and country." Everyone knew it was coming, including the association that administers the FA Cup. Therefore, it should have been properly observed.

Those who are opposed to it need to appreciate just how different football is these days for clubs in the highest echelons of the game. For instance, when Nottingham Forest won the European Cup in 1979 they played a total of 9 matches in that competition. The following season, when they successfully defended the trophy, they played another 9 games in the competition and 2 in the European Super Cup.

This season, Liverpool have already played 6 Champions League games,1 Super Cup game and 2 FIFA World Club Championship games, and we're only in January! Last year, when they won the competition, they played 13 Champions League matches.

This season, Wolves have already played 12 Europa League matches. They started playing competitive football in July!

Something has to give as the top clubs playing so much football benefits absolutely nobody - not the players, not the fans, not the clubs themselves and not the national teams.

Personally, I believe the League Cup should be done away with completely and replays should be done away with in the FA Cup. I also believe the number of clubs playing in the Europa League should be greatly reduced as that competition is a farce.

[dembethewarrior]

The Premier League voted for a mid season break as happens in some other countries. What's the point of having a break if fixtures are going to be shoved in it? I understand Klopp standing up for having this break. Yes, he could go to the match. Yes, it wouldn't take much effort. But if that then becomes expected of everyone during the short break, what's the point of having a break? None.

Agree with you. People are saying he could still manage the team but I don't agree with them, a break is a break, no fixture in that period. If he turns up and manages the kids they'll just blow it off as a manager throwing his toys out, he's trying to make a statement and it lessens his stance if he manages the kids.

Maybe now they will take notice.

[dembethewarrior]

Disappointing stance really.
I think that he has let himself down and perhaps people might think of him differently after this.

It seems to me that he has been embarrassed by the Shrewsbury team, a game in which the opposition had more than enough chances to win.
He brought his big guns on and it didn't work.
Tactically he got it wrong and he is now paying the price.

Agree with the post above in that some kind of "proper" punishment should be dished out and also with the point that he is disrespecting the competition to an extent.
They won't though. It's the darlings of the world Liverpool we are talking about.

He had it agreed with the board prior to the game, it's not like it's a kneejerk reaction after the game didn't go his way

[splott parker]

Klopp has too many bloody points!!!!!!

[dembethewarrior]

Klopp has too many bloody points!!!!!!

😂

[ToTaL ITK]

city fans clearly divided on with this ...i personally don't care what he does with his team as city are playing tonight.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Of course Klopp has a point and it's a very good one. There was no point whatsoever in the Football Association, the Premier League and the EFL agreeing to a winter break for the top flight clubs if they were going to schedule FA Cup replays in the middle of it.

When the plans for the winter break were officially agreed in June 2018, the Football Association described it as "a significant moment that will greatly benefit club and country." Everyone knew it was coming, including the association that administers the FA Cup. Therefore, it should have been properly observed.

Those who are opposed to it need to appreciate just how different football is these days for clubs in the highest echelons of the game. For instance, when Nottingham Forest won the European Cup in 1979 they played a total of 9 matches in that competition. The following season, when they successfully defended the trophy, they played another 9 games in the competition and 2 in the European Super Cup.

This season, Liverpool have already played 6 Champions League games,1 Super Cup game and 2 FIFA World Club Championship games, and we're only in January! Last year, when they won the competition, they played 13 Champions League matches.

This season, Wolves have already played 12 Europa League matches. They started playing competitive football in July!

Something has to give as the top clubs playing so much football benefits absolutely nobody - not the players, not the fans, not the clubs themselves and not the national teams.

Personally, I believe the League Cup should be done away with completely and replays should be done away with in the FA Cup. I also believe the number of clubs playing in the Europa League should be greatly reduced as that competition is a farce.

Talking out of your harris

Christ you sound like a love sick premier league sky sports fan

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

city fans clearly divided on with this ...i personally don't care what he does with his team as city are playing tonight.

As far as I am concerned klopp and his team can both **** off , bunch of precious tarts

[splott parker]

Let’s be fair, top of the Prem by a country mile, two up against Shrewsbury, he should have been made to come into work the next day at 6am to work out where it went wrong!! As Cpl Jones said, ‘They don’t like it up ‘em’

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Let’s be fair, top of the Prem by a country mile, two up against Shrewsbury, he should have been made to come into work the next day at 6am to work out where it went wrong!! As Cpl Jones said, ‘They don’t like it up ‘em’

Feck em

[celticknight]

The Premier League asked for a mid-season break yet the FA arranged FA Cup replays for that week.

Anyone get the feeling this is a PL vs. FA pissing contest with the teams caught in the middle?

[dembethewarrior]

city fans clearly divided on with this ...i personally don't care what he does with his team as city are playing tonight.

Yeah let's talk about knicker collections or hot weather girls instead, **** football.

[dembethewarrior]

Of course Klopp has a point and it's a very good one. There was no point whatsoever in the Football Association, the Premier League and the EFL agreeing to a winter break for the top flight clubs if they were going to schedule FA Cup replays in the middle of it.

When the plans for the winter break were officially agreed in June 2018, the Football Association described it as "a significant moment that will greatly benefit club and country." Everyone knew it was coming, including the association that administers the FA Cup. Therefore, it should have been properly observed.

Those who are opposed to it need to appreciate just how different football is these days for clubs in the highest echelons of the game. For instance, when Nottingham Forest won the European Cup in 1979 they played a total of 9 matches in that competition. The following season, when they successfully defended the trophy, they played another 9 games in the competition and 2 in the European Super Cup.

This season, Liverpool have already played 6 Champions League games,1 Super Cup game and 2 FIFA World Club Championship games, and we're only in January! Last year, when they won the competition, they played 13 Champions League matches.

This season, Wolves have already played 12 Europa League matches. They started playing competitive football in July!

Something has to give as the top clubs playing so much football benefits absolutely nobody - not the players, not the fans, not the clubs themselves and not the national teams.

Personally, I believe the League Cup should be done away with completely and replays should be done away with in the FA Cup. I also believe the number of clubs playing in the Europa League should be greatly reduced as that competition is a farce.

They were also sent letters telling them to respect the break and not schedule glamorous friendlies 😂

Oh but they can play a replay

[dembethewarrior]

Let’s be fair, top of the Prem by a country mile, two up against Shrewsbury, he should have been made to come into work the next day at 6am to work out where it went wrong!! As Cpl Jones said, ‘They don’t like it up ‘em’

They didnt exactly have it up them did they, it's not like they had a boggy pitch and were playing 80s Wimbledon or 10s Warnock)

[Optimistic Nick]

He should be playing the reserves in the EPL, they won that weeks ago. Use tbe first team to mop up the rest of the trophies

[rudy gestede]

Yeah let's talk about knicker collections or hot weather girls instead, **** football.

Why are you always such a prick to everyone?

[dembethewarrior]

Why are you always such a prick to everyone?

What's wrong with a bit of sarcasm? If you don't like my tone you don't have to get involved, yet masses of you do making something out of nothing, Tresseder was the last one to have his comment deleted for name calling, we don't put up with that on here.

Back to the thread please.

[surge]

Of course Klopp has a point and it's a very good one. There was no point whatsoever in the Football Association, the Premier League and the EFL agreeing to a winter break for the top flight clubs if they were going to schedule FA Cup replays in the middle of it.

When the plans for the winter break were officially agreed in June 2018, the Football Association described it as "a significant moment that will greatly benefit club and country." Everyone knew it was coming, including the association that administers the FA Cup. Therefore, it should have been properly observed.

Those who are opposed to it need to appreciate just how different football is these days for clubs in the highest echelons of the game. For instance, when Nottingham Forest won the European Cup in 1979 they played a total of 9 matches in that competition. The following season, when they successfully defended the trophy, they played another 9 games in the competition and 2 in the European Super Cup.

This season, Liverpool have already played 6 Champions League games,1 Super Cup game and 2 FIFA World Club Championship games, and we're only in January! Last year, when they won the competition, they played 13 Champions League matches.

This season, Wolves have already played 12 Europa League matches. They started playing competitive football in July!

Something has to give as the top clubs playing so much football benefits absolutely nobody - not the players, not the fans, not the clubs themselves and not the national teams.

Personally, I believe the League Cup should be done away with completely and replays should be done away with in the FA Cup. I also believe the number of clubs playing in the Europa League should be greatly reduced as that competition is a farce.

From a football fans point of view, that's three completely irrelevant games whereas an FA Cup fixture is the third biggest competition Liverpool play in this year. Liverpool however placed more value in these games because of the sponsorship and financial opportunities from being considered champions of the world. Sure, be honest about not being able to manage just how much football they are required to play but recognise that they're in position to spend many millions building a deeper squad than 99% and are partially responsible for issue by treating these fantasy games as important.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

From a football fans point of view, that's three completely irrelevant games

So irrelevant that you could hardly escape from Liverpool fans letting everyone on social media know they were World Club champions.....