Sludge bach, I agree.
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The only time I can say I am patriotic in any way is when I watch the welsh national football team play
Most of the time I find a lot about wales very embarrassing, the annual binge drinking festival that is the six nations , the media overkill surrounding that event , the dreadful articles about ten things to be proud about to be welsh every weekend in the western mail newspaper all that crap about cool cymru, sexy welsh and social , the faux trendy media set , dreadful tv , radio wales
I love cardiff city though but only support them because my english father and half irish mother decided to have it off when my old man worked at BP chemicals port Talbot
I find a lot about our country embarrassing yes , it's beautiful but to hear and listen to the complete crap coming from the media is cringeworthy
Most of us are welsh because our parents snagged here and no more
If my old man and old dear got it together in Devon I would be an exeter city fan
The biggest generalisations come from the media and from the outside image we as a country portray ourselves as
Someone saying I am proud to be welsh mun , whilst supporting an english football club like liverpool , makes a complete mockery of patriotism
There is just as much pride , and that's not a lot , in being from guildford or Norwich
Have you ever lived outside of Wales Sludge?
Probably happens in every country in the world.
You seen Americans online?
I'll answer that one. He lived in Bradford for a while. He'll tell you it was while pursuing his brilliant academic career at their university. In truth, that was where he was first employed as an assistant bog cleaner (AKA deputy sanitary engineer, according to his spin). He was sacked from that role for reasons he's unwilling to divulge, but it's safe to assume they were unsavoury. He didn't mind too much about getting the elbow as "it was a shitty job, anyway" as he acknowledges. Whilst there he learnt many phrases (such as: fancy a nobbing, love? and get your drawers off) in both of the local lingos, Urdu and Punjabi.
He returned to Wales claiming to have degrees in everything from biophysics to flower arranging. It was then he joined the Cowbridge Young Conservatives, begun parting his hair down the middle and use words such as gosh and ghastly at every opportunity. He's remained a rotter ever since.
I dont think it means jack shit
The irish and Scottish are so proud of their nation hardly anyone speaks Gaelic
In wales the proportion of mother tongue speakers is far higher
Does that makes us a proud nation
I would say no because when it comes to sport most of these so called patriotic welshmen support Manchester United, Liverpool and other english clubs
Patriotism is all rather embarrassing really , none more evident than in wales , it's so fake
Welsh people voting for a far right tory government ? Wheres the patriotism in that
I find the line about Wales being a nation of poets and musicians a curious one. It's total nonsense, of course. Wales was historically never any more of a musical nation than any other part of the UK. A Welsh massed choir won a prestigious choral competition, one that the best singers from around South Wales were selected. No other choirs took part, but it didn't stop the media suggesting Wales was a land of song. Wales, a country going through huge changes, cashed in on this and male voice choirs became popular. Early rugby popularity started in a similar way. Wales got much of its late 19th century identity from the English media. There's an irony.
Welsh rugby was brought to us by the pit workers from the west country , immigrants who moved here to work
The game seen as our national game was in fact the game of England
In wales football ruled the roost before the locals grabbed the ball off their english work mates
One thing that gets me is all this having all signs in two lanbuages. What is the extra cost and burden that places on public finances? Its a complete waste of money that could serve better being used for other things
You've posted some absolute dross on this message board, but this is right up there with the worst of it. Slowly morphing into full on WUM.
One thing that gets me is all this having all signs in two languages. What is the extra cost and burden that places on public finances? Its a complete waste of money that could serve better being used for other things
I'm not patriotic, being born in wales was the easiest thing i've ever done, i don't see myself as any different to any other person who has to graft from any part of the UK. My country of birth doesn't come into it, it doesn't matter. I find the over zealous flag waving embarrassing wherever someone is from and the parochial stereotypes trotted out by the media and lapped up by people who seem to think that they have to behave in a certain way is a bit defeatist if we're looking to progress and change certain perceptions about Wales.
Wales is quite a poor country, it has never recovered from the decimation of heavy industry and manufacturing and successive governments on all sides have done little in order to create real jobs for people in the poorest areas. Education levels aren't great either, plenty of bright, young hopefuls have to leave Wales in order to realise their ambitions.
What would make me proud is well paid jobs and hope for the young people of this country, real investment, excellent education and training and better infrastructure. If all else fails i suppose i can wave my flag.