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    Re: Johnson is dithering and a danger to us all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Singapore have done well, South Korea managed to come back from what looked like disaster, czechia have managed very well, Germany too.

    Then Italy and Spain have had and are having a nightmare.
    Singapore introduced tough measures early on, and that enabled them to stay at roughly that rate for weeks. In recent days it's stepped up further, but even now isolation is not at the point that it is in the UK.

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    It's being reported that Boris Johnson has tested positive for it.

  3. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    It's being reported that Boris Johnson has tested positive for it.
    Johnson is dithering and a danger to himself

  4. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Johnson is dithering and a danger to himself
    Maybe he caught it from non-isolating Corbyn who was coughing at PMQs?

  5. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Maybe he caught it from non-isolating Corbyn who was coughing at PMQs?
    Hopefully, continue the coughing comrad Corbyn, communism will be upon us soon.

  6. #106

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Johnson is dithering and a danger to himself
    And his current squeeze who is with child.

  7. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanD View Post
    And his current squeeze who is with child.
    Yeah feel terribel for her, it's not sure but looks like it could potentially be very dangerous to pregnant women

  8. #108

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    Angela Rayner also self-isolating with it.

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    Re: Johnson is dithering and a danger to us all.

    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Maybe he caught it from non-isolating Corbyn who was coughing at PMQs?
    Maybe he caught it when he was at that hospital, shaking all those coronavirus patients' hands.

    He spoke about it on TV.

    Well done Boris. Stiff upper lip 1, Virus 0.
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  10. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Treseder View Post
    To be fair, although threads like this pop up every now and then, and they can be quite amusing, as usual, it’s just all guff and hot air.
    Since I was born, there have only ever been Conservative and Labour Governments in the UK, with the exception of one coalition.
    It’s been the same arguments, regurgitated, time after time..
    I’ve yet to see a government that can keep a 60m + population all happy, and I never will.
    It’s easier to nail blancmange to a ceiling.
    A socialist country would be as fraught with problems as a capitalist country is.
    Mankind will always have folk at the bottom and folk at the top.
    There will always be poor folk and rich folk.
    There will always be strong folk and weak folk.
    The majority of us find our comfortable niche somewhere in the equation, live our lives as well as we can and then shuffle off our mortal coils into oblivion.
    If we can navigate through what can sometimes be a beautiful world, and sometimes a complete cess pit, to a ripe old age, then we can count ourselves to be the lucky ones.
    Well said and very right.
    The worrying thing for general politics is if labour mess up the latest leadership campaign I doubt I will ever see a labour Government again in my lifetime and I am 67 years old.
    Many of the incumbents are virtually stating that they firmly believe in Corbyn’s policies and will continue with them.
    So basically the electorate are stupid ?
    They need to look for serious change. Many criticise Blair but at least he realised that continuing opposition is just moaning and whinging without any difference. You need power

  11. #111

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    Health Secretary has CV too.

  12. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Oh look it’s the 2 dick heads of the apocalypse!

    It should surprise nobody that the 2 biggest dunces on this board are Tory voters.
    Resorting to personal abuse because you don't agree with others posts, is symptomatic of lack of intelligence and corrupt arguments. Keep it up.

  13. #113

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    Let's talk about dithering and not doing anything shall we...

    https://truepublica.org.uk/united-ki...iqSh683djbVDyM

  14. #114

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    Credible source, that...

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    Re: Johnson is dithering and a danger to us all.

    Quote Originally Posted by fingers View Post
    Let's talk about dithering and not doing anything shall we...

    https://truepublica.org.uk/united-ki...iqSh683djbVDyM
    That is damning. The same story in the USA - only there they not only didn't act on the pandemic crisis advice, they (Trump) dismantled the response and planning teams.

  16. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Credible source, that...
    https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-conten...17-item-10.pdf

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...test-8pnmdpdfx

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...event-pandemic

    https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/arti...ot-the-public/

    There are plenty of sources from every political leaning saying the same thing.

  17. #117

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    Yet Ferguson's latest report says that NHS capacity is ok...

    Who to believe?

  18. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by tell it like it is View Post
    Yet Ferguson's latest report says that NHS capacity is ok...

    Who to believe?
    Hasn't he said it is ok only if we keep people inside?

  19. #119

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Hasn't he said it is ok only if we keep people inside?
    Self-isolation is working by the looks of things, although we're talking about models that have assumptions built it.

    We've no knowledge if those assumptions are correct - clearly initial ones were not, hence Ferguson revising his figure of deaths down dramatically.

    It seem German figures are calculated differently to us and others - in German if someone has an underlying illness and Cv, the underlying illness tends to be given as cause of death, here it's other way round I seem to recall reading.

  20. #120

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    Let's hope he's right

  21. #121

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Let's hope he's right
    Who doesn't?

    The problem we are seeing is that models are having to be changed on a daily basis as more knowledge is emerging. I'd say that inaccuracies in models weren't helped due to China lying about the true nature of it initially.

    I'd hope that the overwhelming majority have nothing or just minor symptoms.

  22. #122

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    Confirmation Johnson's a clown.
    Met the, latest super spreader
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...hands-21765751

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    Don’t see that how anyone can ever vote for them after seeing that

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    Re: Johnson is dithering and a danger to us all.

    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Don’t see that how anyone can ever vote for them after seeing that
    Woe-be-tide the first Tory to spout the line "The economy is safe in our hands" come election time.

    For the sake of the country borrowing more money or, heaven forbid, getting Amazon and Google and Starbucks to pay their taxes - a compund increasing of the NHS budget would have made us better prepared than we now are with people talking about using Bluestone, the Excel centre and Birmingham airport makeshift hospitals and morgues.


    We are only in the first week of schools closing, and the 5th day of a lockdown that is flouted by a few. If these numbers of new cases and new deaths are rising at a rate of 33% a day in 7 days' time then we are completely screwed.

    Stay home everyone.

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