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There is no cure .
There wont be a vaccine for some time .
For the country to move forward and get back on its feet , on the whole ,we all have to get it .
Once the number of deaths drop below a certain point , restrictions will be lifted and we will start again.
The deaths are being controlled , which is of course sensible .
The hospital in the millennium stadium is a sign of things to come .
The only positive I can think about it at the moment is a lot of us have had it and aren't aware.
Anyone disagree with my interpretation of the current situation ?
I don't even know what you're talking about to be honest. It makes no sense to me.
I'm not an expert on pandemics and I wouldn't like to guess how this one will end up, but I think suggesting that everyone is going to get it eventually is nonsense based on everything I've heard and read.
The only figures they are giving is for people tested , when we cant test the people in the front line ,our NHS workers , then , the figures mean nothing.
I remember them saying one person could contaminate 400 people in a very short period , it gives an idea how far out the figures are.
Not at all.What the OP is saying that all the people that manage to duck it this time around may well get it next time.I think at a guess the number of people as a percentage who don't succombe to this virus at any time will be in the lower single digits.A vaccine of some sort will eventually help.
I have pondered on this myself. As a 70+ year old I am obliged to stay at home 24/7, so here I am in splendid isolation for the last 2 weeks and maybe many more weeks yet. It's not too bad, just missing face to face contact with friends and family. Even when this episode is deemed to be officially "over" and I go out and about once again, how can I be sure that there still aren't a significant number of folk who are asymptomatic also out and about? Might it not have been better that I had caught the virus now and thereby got some immunity? The problem is I would never know if I had got the milder form of the disease, or if not, it would have killed me anyway!
I wouldn't put any store in getting the vaccine - that's going to be a very long way off and, not unreasonably, us geriatrics are going to be way down the priority list!
The examples of China and other Asian countries argue otherwise. Also, my understanding is that previous coronaviruses, including the seemingly more deadly SARS, were on the wane before a vaccine was discovered.
If we are all going to get it though, surely, it is best to do all we can to postpone such an event as long as we can so the best chance is given to getting a vaccine?
This probably explains why you are being a wanker and going out and about as if it is normal.
If my parents get it, they will very likely be hospitalised. If that happens, I don't think they will get a ventilator ahead of the many younger people who need them.
The deaths are not being controlled. We are at the start of that curve.
I appreciate you need to get out and about and this is all a terrible inconvenience to you, but herd immunity projected 200,000 deaths and this lockdown projects 7000-20000 deaths.
My mother is 80 and has "underlying health issues" I usually see her once a week .
I haven't seen her since I read the consequences of this virus. She has stayed in for a couple of weeks, like yourself, and I do worry
how long will it be before she is able to leave the house safely.
If my thoughts on this are correct it will be some time away.
When numbers of new cases and numbers in intensive care (currently 1600) start falling, they will relax the restrictions a little.
The key thing is how quickly the number of new cases drops once we reach the peak.
Once that drops, they will allow kids back to school (maybe with monitoring of their temperature). After a few weeks of that, people will be allowed to travel back to work, maybe shops will reopen, but with a maximum number of people allowed.
The vulnerable are only on week 2 of a 12 week lockdown, so that gives you an idea of the timeline. Ideally, they will want kids in school before removing restrictions on the vulnerable.
However, if people continue flouting the rules, then this will go on a lot longer. Mainly because we can't be trusted to follow guidelines.
But how (and this question is aimed at everybody not just you) does slowly relaxing the rules not mean a slow build up of patients again? So if we slowly relax the rules and in 8 months it's more or less back to normal then why doesn't the virus spread like wildfire again in 8 months? There's no vaccine, nothing's really changed, nowhere near enough people will have had it for effective herd immunity (assuming that 80% of the population won't have had it by then)
So how do we get back to normal before a vaccine arrives? What am I missing?
The hospital in the millennium stadium and similar all over the country tells me we haven't scratched the surface .
I don't want to be seen as doing gloom and doom , I believe my opening post is probably close to the truth .
My mind is open to there being another solution .