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  1. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by Former Labour leader View Post
    Apparently he is still running a fever which suggests a secondary infection such as pneumonia.
    My wife has had pneumonia 4 times.

    You can go downhill very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I wasn't talking about Anne, i was making a hypothetical point that in certain circumstances some people are nore pivotal to what goes on than others. If you cannot grasp that then its pointless talking to you
    Complete horseshit.

  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Tell Anne’s family that.
    I'm her son????

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Complete horseshit.
    It really is not, it is common sense. It is like saying if Harry Kane is injured, it is no more important than if Vorm got injured.. maybe not morally but when it comes down to the resulting impact it is a significant difference.

  5. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I have never heard Dominic Raab described as a moderate before.

    He was also very unimpressive at the daily press conference in the past week when he has stood in for Johnson - although that is true for most of them - Gove, Sharma, Jenrick. It is frightening when Matt Hancock appears to be the most competent, honest (the jury is out on testing) and adult!
    Raab was the one who is supposed to have licked his fingers before turning over a piece of paper at the briefing he gave wasn't he?

  6. #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Raab was the one who is supposed to have licked his fingers before turning over a piece of paper at the briefing he gave wasn't he?
    Yes

  7. #57

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    Hope he, and anyone else in this position, returns to full health soon. I never got the chance to vote Anne out so need Boris back to full health for that.

  8. #58

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    All the best to Boris and everyone else currently fighting it.

  9. #59

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    That's a bit silly and you know it.

    Is he more important than my mother who died the other year no, but in the grand scheme of things during a global crisis, losing the PM would be worse than losing Anne from Ponty.

    Don't get me wrong - I'll shed no tears but it's the last thing we need.
    Boris Johnson and his cronies are a big part of why the situation is so bad, they had every opportunity to get on top of it early but they didn't take it.
    He is no more important that the other near 5,000 people who have so far died. But saying that if he dies then it might actually galvanise people and get it through their thick heads that we need to stay in as much as possible and not socialise.

  10. #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs3100 View Post
    Boris Johnson and his cronies are a big part of why the situation is so bad, they had every opportunity to get on top of it early but they didn't take it.
    He is no more important that the other near 5,000 people who have so far died. But saying that if he dies then it might actually galvanise people and get it through their thick heads that we need to stay in as much as possible and not socialise.
    Do you regard the medical experts such as the Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific officer as his "cronies" because according to reports they are the ones whose advice he apparently took
    ( the inevitable public enquiry should hopefully tell us the full story)

  11. #61

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    I've no time for Johnson, but I recognise the symbolism behind any Prime Minister at times like this and so, although I can see the point of those saying he is just the same as Anne of Ponty etc, the truth is that he, or more particularly his job, isn't. Anyway, I wish anyone suffering from the virus a complete recovery and that extends to someone like Boris Johnson who I feel is lacking in so many ways as a Prime Minister.

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    Re: Johnson Admitted to Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by chris lee View Post
    It really is not, it is common sense. It is like saying if Harry Kane is injured, it is no more important than if Vorm got injured.. maybe not morally but when it comes down to the resulting impact it is a significant difference.
    What a completely nonsensical comparison.

  13. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Do you regard the medical experts such as the Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific officer as his "cronies" because according to reports they are the ones whose advice he apparently took
    ( the inevitable public enquiry should hopefully tell us the full story)
    Unfortunately in this instance yes, I do consider them his cronies. The plan they formulated was a very high risk one that nowhere else in the world was trying and most people working in public health and epidemiology were aghast at. The government had plenty of time to get ahead of the curve but they didn't, they should have been proactive and not reactive, the way they have dealt with this pandemic has been appalling. I truly hope there is a fully independent public enquiry into their handling of the situation.

    For full clarity though, I don't have access to the data that his advisors have, and I haven't seen the Imperial model that they have been using. I am an epidemiologist, I have worked in public health and academia including Public Health Wales, Cardiff University, and Swansea University since 1999.

  14. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs3100 View Post
    Unfortunately in this instance yes, I do consider them his cronies. The plan they formulated was a very high risk one that nowhere else in the world was trying and most people working in public health and epidemiology were aghast at. The government had plenty of time to get ahead of the curve but they didn't, they should have been proactive and not reactive, the way they have dealt with this pandemic has been appalling. I truly hope there is a fully independent public enquiry into their handling of the situation.

    For full clarity though, I don't have access to the data that his advisors have, and I haven't seen the Imperial model that they have been using. I am an epidemiologist, I have worked in public health and academia including Public Health Wales, Cardiff University, and Swansea University since 1999.
    I think I will go with what hes saying

  15. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs3100 View Post
    Unfortunately in this instance yes, I do consider them his cronies. The plan they formulated was a very high risk one that nowhere else in the world was trying and most people working in public health and epidemiology were aghast at. The government had plenty of time to get ahead of the curve but they didn't, they should have been proactive and not reactive, the way they have dealt with this pandemic has been appalling. I truly hope there is a fully independent public enquiry into their handling of the situation.

    For full clarity though, I don't have access to the data that his advisors have, and I haven't seen the Imperial model that they have been using. I am an epidemiologist, I have worked in public health and academia including Public Health Wales, Cardiff University, and Swansea University since 1999.
    Sweden? Netherlands?

    I fully respect your knowledge in the subject.

    But if most people in public health and epidemiology were aghast why wasn't there a massive outcry at the start? Yes of course people like John Ashton spoke out fairly early on (seems to have gone quiet recently) but it seemed to me that there were experts on both sides of the arguement in pretty equal numbers.

    And what about Public Health England and Wales (and their Scottish equivalent). I presume they would have had an input? Wouldn't they also bear at least some of the responsibility for the problems with testing, PPE and ventilators?

    By calling them his cronies aren't you questioning the integrity of people like Chris Witty, Patrick Vallance and Neil Ferguson?

  16. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Sweden? Netherlands?

    I fully respect your knowledge in the subject.

    But if most people in public health and epidemiology were aghast why wasn't there a massive outcry at the start? Yes of course people like John Ashton spoke out fairly early on (seems to have gone quiet recently) but it seemed to me that there were experts on both sides of the arguement in pretty equal numbers.

    And what about Public Health England and Wales (and their Scottish equivalent). I presume they would have had an input? Wouldn't they also bear at least some of the responsibility for the problems with testing, PPE and ventilators?

    By calling them his cronies aren't you questioning the integrity of people like Chris Witty, Patrick Vallance and Neil Ferguson?
    I have last months private eye that was released just after the herd immunity stuff was floated and there are plenty of examples of the outcry there. I thought it was ridiculous when I saw it, didn't you?

  17. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I've no time for Johnson, but I recognise the symbolism behind any Prime Minister at times like this and so, although I can see the point of those saying he is just the same as Anne of Ponty etc, the truth is that he, or more particularly his job, isn't. Anyway, I wish anyone suffering from the virus a complete recovery and that extends to someone like Boris Johnson who I feel is lacking in so many ways as a Prime Minister.
    I wish I'd never mentioned her.

  18. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I have last months private eye that was released just after the herd immunity stuff was floated and there are plenty of examples of the outcry there. I thought it was ridiculous when I saw it, didn't you?
    I didn't see last months Private Eye.

    Though what was ridiculous?

  19. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Sweden? Netherlands?

    I fully respect your knowledge in the subject.

    But if most people in public health and epidemiology were aghast why wasn't there a massive outcry at the start? Yes of course people like John Ashton spoke out fairly early on (seems to have gone quiet recently) but it seemed to me that there were experts on both sides of the arguement in pretty equal numbers.

    And what about Public Health England and Wales (and their Scottish equivalent). I presume they would have had an input? Wouldn't they also bear at least some of the responsibility for the problems with testing, PPE and ventilators?

    By calling them his cronies aren't you questioning the integrity of people like Chris Witty, Patrick Vallance and Neil Ferguson?
    Ok cronies might be going a bit far, but there appears to be a lot of politics in the direction that the response took, rather than the science, and that does include Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance.

    I know plenty of people within PHE and PHW I don’t think they’re particularly happy with the government’s actions.
    PPE and vents are down to the government/NHS not PHE or PHW so they shouldn’t take the blame there. Testing is slightly different, but the problems are still laid at the government’s door, again a lot of this seems political rather than what’s necessary.

  20. #70

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    I didn't see last months Private Eye.

    Though what was ridiculous?
    The herd immunity technique. It was known to be dangerous bollocks way before it was decided by the government that it was their strategy.

  21. #71

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    Good to see the Prime Minister is seemingly not in as bad a shape as reported in some places - I do think the spokesman's comment about him still receiving a box is a tad unfortunate though on a couple of fronts;-

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...pital-11969302

  22. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Good to see the Prime Minister is seemingly not in as bad a shape as reported in some places - I do think the spokesman's comment about him still receiving a box is a tad unfortunate though on a couple of fronts;-

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...pital-11969302
    I must admit I am struggling a bit with the narrative around the Johnson illness. Concurrently we are being told that his symptoms are sufficient to require a stay in an NHS hospital in London whilst being so mild that he can work from his bed on papers and still manage the levers of government.

    Understand the Keep Calm and Carry On aims but either he is sufficiently ill to take up a bed then he deserves it given his status and condition or it is precautionary such that he, probably alone of those people admitted to hospital with the virus can somehow carry on working from bed.

    If it is the latter then him occupying a bed in the week that NHS Nightingale was launched as an emergency centre looks a bit askew.

  23. #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Do you regard the medical experts such as the Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific officer as his "cronies" because according to reports they are the ones whose advice he apparently took
    ( the inevitable public enquiry should hopefully tell us the full story)
    I think the public health experts in the UK have shown themselves to be a clueless bunch of c@nts. Vallance and witty may be professors, but in terms of their response to covid 19 they've been as thick as pigshit. As for that Scottish one, the less said the better

  24. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
    I think the public health experts in the UK have shown themselves to be a clueless bunch of c@nts. Vallance and witty may be professors, but in terms of their response to covid 19 they've been as thick as pigshit. As for that Scottish one, the less said the better
    You know what changed it though? When there was finally some openness about "herd immunity" and other scientists/the press were able to challenge. If the UK government had taken action to be more open earlier then we'd be in a better position.

  25. #75

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    Johnson moved to intensive care as his condition has worsened.

    Breaking news

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