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What worries me more is somebody saying that a party need to get rid of their leaders. Doesn’t say much about the party does it?
I voted about an hour or so ago and I had a chat with one of the tellers whom I know. She has been working in my local polling station for a number of years and said she has never seen it so busy, even in General Elections.
She said the have had a queue all day albeit only 4 or 5 people but she has never ever seen a queue before and also that they normally use 1 ballot box and as we spoke they were currently on their third for the day.
I know there is extra paper because of the Police commissioner vote but even so there seems to be more people than usual bothering to cast their votes.
That cannot be a bad thing, but if it is mirrored across Wales who will benefit? That's the question?
I would just add that there was a small queue when I voted when I went in and when I came out and that was close to 8 PM, most unusual.
Well as long as they don't get enough votes to run the country I couldn't give two fecks
If they increase the amount of people that vote for them they will see it as a victory but as long as Labour get a decent leader they will be always spouting off from the sidelines
Which is what Labour nationally needs to do , get rid of starmer
Two things , Labour if they win the majority of seats either rule outright or with a coalition . That's fine by me .
Nationally is UK wide , as in general elections
Even so the liberals seem a bust flush so I think a left of centre party to keep out the tories which the majority of the electorate want is the future
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Adam Price has been spouting on the TV for weeks asking people to vote plaid
You and your lot have their chance
If plaids vote increases then great , if they gain seats fantastic
If Plaid Cymru , the only true independence party at this election don't do really well then either all these polls about increasing support for independence are cobblers or the pro independence lot can't be bothered
The way to change things is to vote
If people can't be arsed to vote for an independence party in 2021 , when are they going to bother ?
I’m actually surprised by the amount of people I know that have voted Plaid, including a number of lifetime Labour voters. Might be too early to have an impact this election though. Regardless of where you stand, a shake up can only benefit Welsh Politics.
My local place was saying they’ve had a a good turnout with youngsters too. I had to queue around 40 minutes.
Is it not because independence isn't an issue in this election and it is possible to support independence and vote for someone other than Plaid?
I also think it's too simplistic to suggest that Labour will only lose votes to the Tories (and hence Plaid don't pick up or lose voters accordingly).
If Labour's vote holds up it will be due to Mark Drakeford and his handling of covid. If Tories make gains, as I expect them too, it will be due to Boris Johnson's vaccine bounce and Brexit. Plaid will be squeezed by these two parties and will have a disappointing election. Independence for Wales is a very long way off.
There seems to be a large amount of labour voters turning to plaid, at least on the regional list. I can see plaid improving on their seats last time and it’s a win win for them.
As long as Plaid maintain or improve seats and number of votes which does look likely, if the Tories do well and weaken Labours stance considerably on last time then Plaids negotiation power increases with every seat that labour loses.
In regards to the independence debate a lot of Labour supporters are at least considering it now and an 825% increase in paying YesCymru members (in less than 12 months) show there is an increased appetite. The seats to watch are the pro-Indy labour candidates, if they win their seats in addition to Plaid winning seats they could make up a solid portion of the Senedd.