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  1. #101

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    It seems it’s ok for him to go around calling anyone who disagrees with his communist ideology twats and ****s.

    He’s even abusing a moderator but he gets away with it time and time again. He’s obviously got something on Mike.

    And yet people wonder why the numbers are down on this forum.

    Shove it.

  2. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    I may be the only one, but reading this it didn't sit right that rather than concentrating on the disgusting crime someone you essentially grew up with committed, you were more concerned with what you had given to them (that you no longer wanted anyway).
    Good grief. If that’s what you took from it then go back to school you utter moron.

  3. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    It seems it’s ok for him to go around calling anyone who disagrees with his communist ideology twats and ****s.

    He’s even abusing a moderator but he gets away with it time and time again. He’s obviously got something on Mike.

    And yet people wonder why the numbers are down on this forum.

    Shove it.
    I've spent months away, can't be me.
    I suspect you don't live on here day in day out, many will get blamed but there is just one constant in all of it.

    But he gets free reign.

    You reap what you sow.

  4. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    No the right to buy was the fault of the Tories....who gave huge reductions with taxpayers money to bribe people to buy council houses


    The houses sold were not replaced by successive tory governments

    Clearly the fault of the Tories

    The implementation of local authority housing policy whilst dependent on central government funding .....was carried out by City councils and local Borough councils ....in Cardiff , Bridgend etc

    So they were are responsible for implementing policy on a local level

    I can't be any clearer than that and I don't know why you are confused

    But that's by the by

    Get your feckin money out
    Jumping around again butt.

    We all know RTB was a disaster but it was a calculated one as the dead old hag was hoping to change the UKs political landscape.

    Back to the point, Cardiff Council or any homelessness team in Wales are hampered by a lack of investment, same as Social Services, health, mental health, substance misuse, probation, emergency services I could go on.

    The bloke you see on the street who suffers with his mental health perhaps needs all the services available to progress? The same bloke who could be given a property but fail to maintain it because there's a 3 year wait for counselling services or a 2 year wait for mental health?

    I may be wrong in my assumption here but how is a local authority 'knifing homelessness charities in the back'?

    Talking about the charities, they do very well out of local authorities gaining contracts for homelessness services in relation to support, accommodation, housing first schemes etc. Still statistics show a rise in rough sleeping. They're at least culpable and not blameless in this, what they doing butt?

    Still on that Cardiff Councils rough sleeping figures are collected by their rough sleeping intervention team contracted out (if I remember rightly) to a major Welsh homelessness charity. They must be lying about the figures to suit the council?

    Here's a thought, instead of the Senedd throwing money at third sector organisations and charities, who in reality run off with their own agendas whilst loosely keeping to the strategic script, why not keep the money 'in house' develop homelessness services which are better coordinated and can be implemented quickly due to the reduced need of holding meetings with various organisations, whilst the charities pay their CEOs, directors decent sums of coin for attending conferences and whining about the sector conditions that they have contributed to.

    Let's take all services back.

    Sounds quite socialist that doesn't it?

    Now whose the Tory handsome?

    It's not the 90s Sludgey anymore butt. Take off your Barker Baggies and mixer shirt. You no longer need to listen to Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine or eat Bird's-eye crispy pancakes for tea.

    Travel with us butt, we're here for you.

    Merry Winterval.

  5. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Good grief. If that’s what you took from it then go back to school you utter moron.
    Wow. I won't point out the irony in posting that straight after literally the comment before "it seems ok for him to go around calling anyone who disagrees with his communist ideology twats and ****s".
    While I think it's rude to point to someone's intellect just because they challenge something you say, it's precisely my schooling that allowed me to read what you posted and suggest a personality trait that perhaps you hadn't intended to share. Rather than going straight to abuse you could reflect on it.

  6. #106

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    You're speaking to someone who cares for a family member, works full time, and looks after his own kid
    Well if you do you would realise what an incredibly hard job it is and you would try and claim that after caring all day and night for a loved one you would go out enjoying yourself

    Because full time carers ......which isn't you as you work so you get a break from the stress .....simply don't chill out and do what people who don't care do .....they are too exhausted

    Looking after a child is not caring . It's parenting . If you child had a chronic illness or disability , that's caring

  7. #107

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    I've spent months away, can't be me.
    I suspect you don't live on here day in day out, many will get blamed but there is just one constant in all of it.

    But he gets free reign.

    You reap what you sow.
    Why did you spend months away

    The last time you were here you were joining every other thread to argue with people and doing an impression of a troll you suggest I am

    What's it to be?

  8. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    Why does sludge get away with these threads when plenty of others getnpuled on for being bullies and ruining the board etc?

    I've been away for a while for my own reasons, but nothing has changed.

    Look at the start of the thread. You can see who changed the tone, yet nothing gets done about him.

    Someone will be along soon to say how awful it is that sludge gets picked on.

    No wonder the board is how it is, when you've got him with free reign to act how he wants and abuse people freely. It's ok tho cos he's been here 25 years posting shit.
    The tone of the thread was changed by your valleys buddy who used the MO you have used in the past

    Suggesting I and others are benefit scroungers

    It's complete bollocks

    This is or was a thread about homelessness but you after several months away are back here doing the same thing

    You keep crying wolf

  9. #109

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    It seems it’s ok for him to go around calling anyone who disagrees with his communist ideology twats and ****s.

    He’s even abusing a moderator but he gets away with it time and time again. He’s obviously got something on Mike.

    And yet people wonder why the numbers are down on this forum.

    Shove it.
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  10. #110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Jumping around again butt.

    We all know RTB was a disaster but it was a calculated one as the dead old hag was hoping to change the UKs political landscape.

    Back to the point, Cardiff Council or any homelessness team in Wales are hampered by a lack of investment, same as Social Services, health, mental health, substance misuse, probation, emergency services I could go on.

    The bloke you see on the street who suffers with his mental health perhaps needs all the services available to progress? The same bloke who could be given a property but fail to maintain it because there's a 3 year wait for counselling services or a 2 year wait for mental health?

    I may be wrong in my assumption here but how is a local authority 'knifing homelessness charities in the back'?

    Talking about the charities, they do very well out of local authorities gaining contracts for homelessness services in relation to support, accommodation, housing first schemes etc. Still statistics show a rise in rough sleeping. They're at least culpable and not blameless in this, what they doing butt?

    Still on that Cardiff Councils rough sleeping figures are collected by their rough sleeping intervention team contracted out (if I remember rightly) to a major Welsh homelessness charity. They must be lying about the figures to suit the council?

    Here's a thought, instead of the Senedd throwing money at third sector organisations and charities, who in reality run off with their own agendas whilst loosely keeping to the strategic script, why not keep the money 'in house' develop homelessness services which are better coordinated and can be implemented quickly due to the reduced need of holding meetings with various organisations, whilst the charities pay their CEOs, directors decent sums of coin for attending conferences and whining about the sector conditions that they have contributed to.

    Let's take all services back.

    Sounds quite socialist that doesn't it?

    Now whose the Tory handsome?

    It's not the 90s Sludgey anymore butt. Take off your Barker Baggies and mixer shirt. You no longer need to listen to Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine or eat Bird's-eye crispy pancakes for tea.

    Travel with us butt, we're here for you.

    Merry Winterval.
    Christ I don't know where to start

    You think that the homeless charities do WELL out of funding from the council ?

    Are you taking the piss ? The council fund the voluntary sector because they know they deal with people that very often won't deal with the council or are simply not a priority

    It's not a village fete out there and money isn't thrown around like confetti

    The City Council every Xmas put money into getting people off the streets . It's done to make the city look good . Because if they were serious about it they would it into the new year when the weather is often worse .

    The City Council funds voluntary sector agencies because it means they can control them . A lot of housing problems in Cardiff are down to evictions from Council Properties and people used to be directed to the housing help centre on St Mary Street which was run .....by Cardiff Council

    I think you are living in a bit of a utopia and you are definitely barking up the wrong tree if you think voluntary sector organisations are the problem . It's central government , funding and the implementation of housing policy on a local level .

    If you do think that specific housing charities in Cardiff are on a jolly then share it with me via pm

    Adios

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    Calling bolllocks on this as soon as I read that you've got a mate.

    You think being a full time carer is for lazy baastards?

    Fair play, you're a deluded cuunt.
    Ha ha I've got far too many!

    I didn't say every carer was a lazy B, I said I have a mate who moved back in with his Mum for free board and lodge and to stop working, claims carers allowance although she's just a bit old and can't walk to the shops as easily as she used too. His job is now shopping for them both and some dusting, and yes he's always been a lazy B. Maybe not compared to you, I couldn't be sure but he is compared to me, I suppose it's all relevant?

    PS I cared for my Mum, moved her in here, didn't claim a penny, and me, and the Mrs both still worked as well as caring for her last two years, it's what you are supposed to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    And you sound like a proper sponger whos never done a days work in his life. Just wants everything handed to him on a plate.

    No divide and rule here I support all the workers / stikers in trying to get a better pay deal for themselves.

    I do however take umbridge with a free loader like you telling where I should spend my hard earned earnings.
    That's a good point, it's easy for someone not working or paying taxes to say give more, surely it would be better for them to get a job, work, and pay more so it's a better society rather than demanding more money from people who are paying their dues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordi Culé View Post
    The only answer is more social housing. Without it rapid rehousing programmes will never get off the ground for multi complex needs individuals.
    Magic money tree again?

    It's so easy to deal with all of these problems, just spend more money, it's free............................

    Get with the program, we've just had a one-in-a-hundred-year event, the pandemic, and there is not enough money to fund the NHS let alone build a shed load of houses.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    It seems it’s ok for him to go around calling anyone who disagrees with his communist ideology twats and ****s.

    He’s even abusing a moderator but he gets away with it time and time again. He’s obviously got something on Mike.

    And yet people wonder why the numbers are down on this forum.

    Shove it.
    It's because he's thick and talks nonsense, then realises it himself and then just loses his temper and calls people childish names. He's slipped up a few times, he's very jealous and says, them in their big houses why can't I have that?

  15. #115

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    That's a good point, it's easy for someone not working or paying taxes to say give more, surely it would be better for them to get a job, work, and pay more so it's a better society rather than demanding more money from people who are paying their dues?
    We've been sold this lie for decades. There's so many flaws in this. Biggest one is......if it worked....it would be working and we'd already have a better society. Except we don't do we? We make other people rich by working for other people and are supposed to be grateful for the scraps whilst the suits sniff coke and drink Bollinger and tell us what to spend our money on. Stop peddling this Tory, failed, capitalist rubbish.

  16. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    It's because he's thick and talks nonsense, then realises it himself and then just loses his temper and calls people childish names. He's slipped up a few times, he's very jealous and says, them in their big houses why can't I have that?
    Do you even get the irony in this post? Just so I can make it easier, I've highlighted the inconsistencies.

  17. #117

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    That's a good point, it's easy for someone not working or paying taxes to say give more, surely it would be better for them to get a job, work, and pay more so it's a better society rather than demanding more money from people who are paying their dues?
    F*ck me. It's Christmas. May I suggest some light Dickensian reading.

  18. #118

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    Quote Originally Posted by superfeathers View Post
    Wow. I won't point out the irony in posting that straight after literally the comment before "it seems ok for him to go around calling anyone who disagrees with his communist ideology twats and ****s".
    While I think it's rude to point to someone's intellect just because they challenge something you say, it's precisely my schooling that allowed me to read what you posted and suggest a personality trait that perhaps you hadn't intended to share. Rather than going straight to abuse you could reflect on it.
    I dont need to reflect on anything, my conscience is clear and your analysis of what I wrote couldnt be further from the truth. I couldnt give two shits about the old bits I gave him, they were going to the dump anyway.

    My point was, had I not helped in some small part this piece of shit get back on his feet 20 years ago, who knows, maybe he would not have fathered a now 18 year old daughter and she in turn wouldnt be having a sleepover at his house where one of her friends got raped by this monster.

    To suggest I care more about an old TV and sofa than the young girl who was raped, when I have an 18 year old daughter myself, is quite frankly absurd and offensive.

    Furthermore, I did not "Grow up" with him, hes someone I knew since teenage years whilst playing junior football and he played for another team.

  19. #119

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    Just dropped off at the Gurnos foodbank and I have to say a very humbling experience.

  20. #120

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
    The tone of the thread was changed by your valleys buddy who used the MO you have used in the past

    Suggesting I and others are benefit scroungers
    Utter bollocks. It changed when you started calling anyone who disagreed with you a Tory. Soppy ****.

  21. #121

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Just dropped off at the Gurnos foodbank and I have to say a very humbling experience.
    Worked on a film project on the Gurnos a while back. That was hard man. Had a lasting impression and it was something I'll never forget. Met some great people but man was is tough and as you say, a very humbling experience.

  22. #122

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    F*ck me! Can't we just have a group hug guys?

  23. #123

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Worked on a film project on the Gurnos a while back. That was hard man. Had a lasting impression and it was something I'll never forget. Met some great people but man was is tough and as you say, a very humbling experience.
    I grew up there, went to school there and still look back with nostalgic goggles to a degree. I often go for a walk around the estate as I only live 15/20 mins walk away now and its not far from the Cyfartha Park and the Taf Fechan countryside which are on my walking routes.

    Heroin completely ravaged the place in the 90's/00's.

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    Re: Mental Health Amongst The Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Do you even get the irony in this post? Just so I can make it easier, I've highlighted the inconsistencies.
    You are as bad as him, that's nonsense too.

    Thick isn't a childish name?

  25. #125

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    You are as bad as him, that's nonsense too.

    Thick isn't a childish name?
    No it isn't, but the act of calling someone thick, is.

    Come on NCB. Let's all calm it down several notches. We can disagree but it's getting way too personal is all I'm saying.
    Last edited by Citizen's Nephew; 22-12-22 at 12:11. Reason: Wrong name in post.

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