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Agree in the most part.Originally Posted by Rjk
I'm not at all keen on the man and there's nothing much for us left of centre people. However, given the calamitous past 13 years we just have to grin and bear it just to get these awful Tories out.
He's the best that the centre left and further left can vote for
I hope to god if he wins the election he quickly gets ousted as he's absolutely weak and hopeless and I don't know any of my friends who are voting for him because he's any good , it's because they want the tories out
Labour need to get nandy in and get the likes of yvette Cooper, Angela Raynor and the other no hopers away from the front bench
Honestly now, what fundementally do you think will change?
I do accept the general idea of the need for change at the top every few years (which also very much applies in the senedd of course) and a desire to punish them for partygate for what happened etc, if that's a big issue for people.
But what honestly do people think will really change?
I think its all about just getting this useless bunch of right wing loonies out isnt it.
Wherever you live just vote tactically to make sure this lot are wiped the floor with.
Yes but to keep them out we need to get savvy
He wont solve anything. Unless he delivers :
Huge tax hykes ?
Corporation tax.
Solve global warming
Declare ear on Russia.
Give everyone 20% rise in wages /pensions .
Treble health , police , education spending.
At the end of all that we can chat about 20% inflation.
Sorry that no adding up if Sludge wants ( in his opinion) useless Labour folk gone who has the skill sets to make sure the right decesions are made in the right manner , any of us could spout what Labour are saying now , where are the tools and decesions to make a difference. If you want to remove a political party because of hatred fine but lets not kid ourselves times will be better . In fact due to Labours lack of government expertise it could go very badly wrong in such unstable times which in the main are not the UK,s doing.
Im sure we will get the 'blame Brexit' theme as Europe and USA and its banks are in serious trouble.
Or we could shout tax the rich and fat cats , we'll that's dangerous as the global economy allows them to move thier riches anywhere , lets not forget the top 10% earners in the UK top already contribute over 60% of income tax.
Business are shouting at a Tory government about high corporation tax.
Tories accused of taxing more than ever before .
Triple lock for pensioners still in place despite calks to reduce it . delivered 10% rise this April, and was introduced via a nasty Tory Cameron / Osbourne initiative.
Not much wriggle room ..
No one answered my simple question here! Beginning to feel a bit left out 🥲
I don't think anything will change much under him. Looks like he wants to do far more with renewables but I don't trust a word he says.
Stopping policies playing up to the far right like the ship em to Rwanda will be an improvement.
Did anyone see starmers key note speech a few weeks ago ?
I don't know who advises him but they are as hopeless as he is
The speech was full of trendy buzzwords and sounded like a lecture to university students
I would imagine your average joe was thinking wtf is all this cobblers about ?
He's a hopeless orator and the advice I would give him is keep it simple
That's what I think too. Actually, I do trust him (as much as I do any politician) but I don't see how anything of note changes with him.
Whoever wins in 2024/25 though will likely benefit from vastly better economic winds.
I've heard some say Rachel Reeves' wind smells sweet.
Not sure about that, but if this is a loose invitation to talk about attractive female Labour MPs then I put forward Louise Haigh and Liz Kendall.
Liz yes, not sure about Louise. Angela still does it for me and Heidi Allen used to erstwhile.
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