Just leaving this here for you.....

[LA Bluebird]

Kaba and Kipre can say what they want about coming back, unless they are going to be released or their clubs are willing to let them go out on loan again without a fee it’s a moot point.

The more I think about it the less I like Lamouchi, we say the club needs a strategy and yet knowing he’s under a transfer fee embargo he showed no interest in playing some of the squad or young players who will be here next year in meaningless games, he got his tactics and lineups woefully wrong on a number of occasions, a lot of real Jekyll and Hyde stuff and but for a points deduction or two he would have taken us down. With that being said I also don’t see many options out there that are better who would realistically consider coming here.

Hard to come to any other conclusion that without significant top down change at the club we will continue to slide and will be odds on favorites to be in a relegation battle next season no matter who the manager is.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

He showed no interest in playing some of the squad or young players who will be here next year in meaningless games

I think that says it all on how highly he rates them. I was shocked he hooked Colwill yesterday but he clearly doesn't rate Bagan at all (despite what he said). Ojo must look incredible in training but he's completely shot.

Re the squad players, basically the entire squad has been used recently! Simpson, Alnwick, Rino, Harris, Ojo, Sawyers, Davies, Colwill etc

[Wash DC Blue]

It’s annoying that we don’t seem to be speaking to Nathan Jones.

I think he’d be great here.

[North Cardiff Blue]

He did inherit a squad that were struggling but didn't do much better than Morison or Hudson. He also had the benefit of Sory Kaba which the others didn't have and his goals undoubtedly saved us.

He's said Kipre and Kaba would both like to come back, which if true would sway it for me to give him a chance for another contract. I think the we've got the basis of a decent team and if he can be backed with a few more signings then it may be a case better the devil you know.

Robinson was a big loss for him, he was starting to hit some form then the injury made it difficult for us, thank God for Kaba or we would have gone down.

[North Cardiff Blue]

warnocks schtick works really well in the short term, motivator type managers need something else to turn to when the team has already heard all of their stories and motivations 5 times before.

I quite like Sabri, but maybe if we had got Warnock in to kee us up, easily, we would have had more options now?

But it is what it is, and I would keep him, Nathan Jones would be interesting though, but a gamble as he failed at Southampton and Stoke, knowing and loving the club, would he work here?

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I quite like Sabri, but maybe if we had got Warnock in to kee us up, easily, we would have had more options now?

But it is what it is, and I would keep him, Nathan Jones would be interesting though, but a gamble as he failed at Southampton and Stoke, knowing and loving the club, would he work here?

Warnock got 5 more points than Lamouchi, and 3 of them came against a team on the beach.

[North Cardiff Blue]

Warnock got 5 more points than Lamouchi, and 3 of them came against a team on the beach.

That's a lot more with a weaker team in freefall and against a much harder opposition, based on team and fixtures 5 points less would have been realistic, so 10 points better is unbelievable really.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

That's a lot more with a weaker team in freefall and against a much harder opposition, based on team and fixtures 5 points less would have been realistic, so 10 points better is unbelievable really.

There is no way our side is significantly weaker than Huddersfield's.

[North Cardiff Blue]

There is no way our side is significantly weaker than Huddersfield's.

Maybe, nine points better then, that is three wins better, fair do's to Warnock, some achievement for a pensioner that only works three months a year.

[pipster]

I know Lamouchi has had a shit group of players to work with, but there's something about him that makes me think twice.

I was chatting with someone from radio wales sport last week, we dont usually talk about the city. Allegedly from the club - they are aware of how well he is thought of both from the players and general footballing circles etc. Especially with Bamba alongside him. So as long as he is happy then the club are happy.
ps this was pre stella chat not after 5 pints. He may well decide to go somewhere else obviously - in which we are back to square 1.

[dml1954]

I would like to see Nathan Jones, here or alternatively Mark Robins who has done a brilliant job at Coventry on what appears to be more of whip round than a budget!

Being realistic though would either of them fancy coming here under the current owner?

I don’t know how Sabri is going to shape up, if he gets the nod , one thing I’m convinced of is that Pep wouldn’t have got a tune out of the crap we have masquerading as footballers.

No creativity, little pace, no bottle, we’ve had crap representing us before, but it’s hard to remember a team that was so ponderous, gutless and lacking in basic skills than this current lot.

If by some miracle we kept Kipre and Kaba, we would still need 5-6 half decent Championship players who would be up to Championship standards.

I’ve said before, I don’t think anyone could have got a tune out of this dross, SL kept us up and if he can shift out the deadwood and is allowed to bring in the players required, then he might have a fighting chance.

So you think that this team is worse than those that represented the club in the lower reaches of Leagues Three and Four in the 80’s and 90’s ?! I don't think you could have been watching properly then or now. We are in the Championship not the basement. We signed 17 players last summer. A team that was gutless, ponderous and lacking basic skills wouldn't have recently gone to Blackpool, Watford and Rotherham and won. We have had significant injuries this season to key players. There is pace in the team (Odowda, Philogene, Collins, Davies) but the biggest problem has been lack of continuity due to injuries, lack of confidence and lack of a natural goal scorer until late in the season.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Maybe, nine points better then, that is three wins better, fair do's to Warnock, some achievement for a pensioner that only works three months a year.

Warnock got 5 points more and he played a Cardiff side on the beach. Warnock did a good job, as did Lamouchi. There's no way Warnock would have done significantly better with our lot. They're fundamentally not good enough.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

So you think that this team is worse than those that represented the club in the lower reaches of Leagues Three and Four in the 80’s and 90’s ?! I don't think you could have been watching properly then or now. We are in the Championship not the basement. We signed 17 players last summer. A team that was gutless, ponderous and lacking basic skills wouldn't have recently gone to Blackpool, Watford and Rotherham and won. We have had significant injuries this season to key players. There is pace in the team (Odowda, Philogene, Collins, Davies) but the biggest problem has been lack of continuity due to injuries, lack of confidence and lack of a natural goal scorer until late in the season.

And the vast majority of them are not up to it. This is the worst team since we got out of Division 3.