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Jesus even a Saville thread and the Lefties try and score a point, OK Wales is a mess and is fiddling the NHS A&E waiting times, and instead of improving waste the money on a daft slower speed than England but Thatcher met Saville twice, how pathetic can people get, they've both been dead for years.
If anyone has actually watched it he fooled everyone that's the story!
He didn't fool everyone though. Admittedly there aren't many who put their heads above the parapet, understandably maybe in view of his frequent threats of legal action. But you had Lydon in the late 70s and the comedian above in 1987 referring to his actions. They weren't guessing were they? Nor would you think they had any special inside knowledge. It seems it was fairly common knowledge. I agree it's a bit pathetic trying to tie Thatcher in with him, even if I can't stand her.
Agreed good post, it seems many knew but couldn't do anything to stop it.
I find similarities with some of the stories with Brand, not kids obviously but abusing his status and power to get women going to see his TV shows, and there are probably a lot more who will be exposed in the coming years.
Going off on a slight tangent(can you actually have a slight tangent?), I remember Saville’s brother Vince being a bit of a celebrity around here. I think I met him in Barry Zoo back in the late 60s. The wonder of the internet, let me check it out, and it says that Saville had family in and around Pontypridd and the Rhondda. The piece I read was just after he died, before his “outing”, with his nephew saying how JS loved the valleys, and loved spending time with all the children around Porth. Well that aged well didn’t it!
I posted on here just after he died in the thread that actually had posters praising him. I made the remark “I wouldn’t have wanted him baby sitting for my kids”. A few shot me down in flames saying it was a poor comment on such a decent fund raiser. I smugly dug the thread out a while later when his horrors were unfolding and did an ‘I told you so’ to one of my decriers. I’m sure he never posted again or, most probably, discreetly changed his name. I’d love to read that thread again, if I recall it was a bit of an eye opener to how the creep fooled a lot of the public.
I watched the series, and thought Coogan played a good part, but the programme as a whole pulled far too many punches. The BBC let itself off very lightly, and elsewhere, there were too many people standing around stroking their chins and saying "Hmm, I'm not too sure about that Saville fella". No shit.
I guess it's easy to be wise after the event, but he certainly fooled a lot of people. I've heard that the mortuary stories were made up, but who knows? As someone who used to listen regularly to his 'Double Top Ten' Shows on a Sunday lunchtime, years ago, I was surprised when the news broke. but anyone who has read Saville's own autobiography will have come across a couple of episodes that were just a bit more than you wanted to read.
This is the best I could find - https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...my-Saville-RIP
Lay off the Mandy, Feedy. He didn’t have everyone fooled at all but thanks to his friends in high places at Beeb, the government and the Royal family he managed to get away with it. He was enabled by the likes of Thatcher. A blind eye was turned because of all his charity work.
I thought it was done well. Coogan was exceptional but I am not sure it tells us anything new. He was clever in making friends with people who could protect him through their powerful positions, many of course without realising what savile was doing or how he was using them.
Thatcher tried to get him knighted loads of times, she was a strong savile advocate, as were the royal family. Savile was called in by the queen to provide marriage counselling when Charles and Diana had marriage problems. Diana rebuked it and called Savile creepy. The bbc didn't include that. I can't imagine a worse counsellor.
From a child protection perspective, I thought they did a very sensitive job of revealing the abuse in scenes. Often those kinds of scenes can in themselves be exploitative. Apparently the survivors of saviles abuse were fully involved in the making of the program and provided with counselling and support.
As for the BBC doing it.. I think they had to.. Otherwise someone else would have done it and would have been much harsher on the bbc. But everyone needs to take collective responsibility.
Sadly many powerful people who abuse children are still in situ. The ex-officer who finally exposed savile claims he's been trying to get the CPS to prosecute a household name for year, but the powerful continue to block it.
It seems we've learned nothing.
I'm halfway through the long shadow. It's a tough watch. The police.. Wow. What utter wankers.
Good point about the stick the BBC would have got if the programme had been aired by another channel.
However as someone who tends to back the BBC against their modern day culture war critics, it's hard to come up with a defence for them when it came to how Savile's awful behaviour was tolerated by people who must have had suspicions, at the very least, about him.
You could tell Saville was at the very least a creep just by watching him on TOTP. It was obvious to me when I was just a boy.
As someone who's boyhood heroes included Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris, I can at least claim that I never liked that ****.
Anyone walking around in a gold effect shiney sweat suit needs a leathering