Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
Is this true though?

I'm sure there's an interesting debate to be had, but it's unlikely when the starting point is the scenario outlined.

Agreed, but I don't think your starting point of 'everything is good' is productive either

Is post covid Tory Britain worse than post financial crisis Labour Britain?

At a macro level possible not, at an individual level yes. Another decade of below inflation pay rises, frozen tax bands, rampant increase in COL and we have more people who are left vulnerable and unable to withstand even the slightest economic shock.

Is Tory Britain worse than Social Democrat Germany or Socialist Party Spain or Portugal, or centrist France?

Worse for who? For median and low earners, yes it is likely to be.

https://www.ft.com/content/85971473-...3-efcad0829044


Do we actually have austerity now?

We just canned our largest infrastructure project in decades replacing it with hot air, are cutting benefits during the winter of a cost of living crisis and freezing tax bands for the 28 millionth year in a row. I will let you decide.

Did Labour oppose austerity a decade ago?

No, they recognised they were losing that argument and played politics. Austerity is likely to be our biggest mistake, even in the context of Brexit. We had a stagnant economy while other countries were taking advantage of favourable conditions and the tories managed to trick people into thinking they were doing well

Is life at the bottom really harder now than 12, 15 years ago?

Yes definitely

If so, are these all the result of the UK govt or are other factors at play?

Both

Where we remove the Tories from many policies such as in Wales, do there problems get much better?

Wales is an almost unprecedented basket case and it shows how ****ed the UK is that tories use it as a benchmark, the answer above applies to Wales as well.
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