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A while ago we'd almost scored double the amount of goals from set pieces as any other side in the Championship. That gap has narrowed.
In 2020/21 we scored 27 from open play.
In 2021/22 we scored 29 from open play.
In 2022/23 we scored 28 from open play.
This season we've scored 19. Only 4 teams across the 4 divisions have scored less from open play on average per game than us. That's embarrassing. That shows how utterly clueless we are when we attack. When goals from set pieces dry up, we lose games.
We might have to agree to disagree here, but if our main aim is hoping to score from set pieces because we're rubbish as an attacking force, I couldn't care less how many games we've managed to pinch, it's a fact that, without set pieces, we'd be in the bottom 3. That's how crap our football has been this season.
Football has been crap, far to negative and generally just poor but I don’t agree set pieces should just be written off though, it’s all part of the game. If you cant score in open player then you do what you can to win.
Wonder if teams struggling below us are having this debate of theu could be 11th if they scored more from set pieces lol.
no offence, as i enjoy some of the historical stuff you post but all that means nothing to prove your opinion, which you and the others are perfectly entitled too. Producing historical facts like that has zero usefulness in the here and now. The football is shit, however, The table is universally accepted in this sport across the world on how teams are judged on performance* (*not entertainment!).
In everything you post, it lacks many fundamentals for data comparison, its purely superficial historical data points. My opinion is you post these mainly as a subversive context but it fails to address many, if not all of the principles around data analysis.... Accuracy and precision, closeness, tolerance, tightly clusted, mean, bias, ISO standard, confirmation bias, outliers, funding..... Whilst you are right to use your data to get the the route of the problem, you have to always challenge the data, ask WHY? ...... your data is accurate, i trust that, but jesus h christ son give it a rest to validate your opinion. The league table is the measurement of performance.
Yes the football is shit, has been for years, Paul Parry scoring a winner in open play is meaningless.
Aye even better than now, from 21st to 11th in the league without them
Some would say saving these people with solid teamwork and following set play operations is no good, we should be saving them freely taking chances, and seeing what happens, it's the wrong type of life-saving, and who cares if more people have survived
If you're going to call out an analogy at least understand its intent. It was a reply to the statistical critique of Eric's statistical critique highlighting that one statisticall measurement can be flawed and correct at the same time. It's a bit like Schrödinger's cat really.....but using a whippet. I suspect that'll whoosh you too.
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Maybe Joe is referring to the experience in the dressing room, training sessions, team bus etc. on top of an improved league position. Who knows?
It's his opinion, and he's entitled to it.
For me, "massive" progress is the sort of thing Cooper did at Forest, Robins has done at Coventry, McKenna is doing at Ipswich...
That's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.
Should our league position be reassessed in the light of our Chairman’s claims about our wage bill? Mid table mediocrity while playing dull, defensive football most of the time would be viewed as failure by other teams spending as much as we have since Bulut arrived. = I find it hard to believe we have the sixth highest wage bill, but I can believe we’re in the top ten.