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    Benefit Fraud

    V Tax evasion etc IMG_4479.jpg


    Notice how high unclaimed benefits is
    Here is the problem with attacking people entitled Benefits.

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    V Tax evasion etc IMG_4479.jpg


    Notice how high unclaimed benefits is
    Here is the problem with attacking people entitled Benefits.
    EXACTLY! Good post. Kick the people at the bottom and make the narrative about them being the problem. Sleight of hand. Smoke and mirrors.

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    V Tax evasion etc IMG_4479.jpg


    Notice how high unclaimed benefits is
    Here is the problem with attacking people entitled Benefits.

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    V Tax evasion etc IMG_4479.jpg


    Notice how high unclaimed benefits is
    Here is the problem with attacking people entitled Benefits.
    There's something seriously wrong with that graphic..

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    There's something seriously wrong with that graphic..
    How can they calculate tax avoided ? - isnt that the whole point of it - it has evaded them, they wont know how much - unless someone has guessed the figure and made something up ?

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    How can they calculate tax avoided ? - isnt that the whole point of it - it has evaded them, they wont know how much - unless someone has guessed the figure and made something up ?
    Its a best estimate using statistical modelling across all taxes and duties.

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    How can they calculate tax avoided ? - isnt that the whole point of it - it has evaded them, they wont know how much - unless someone has guessed the figure and made something up ?
    Exactly [with regard to tax evasion]. And re. tax avoidance, it's perfectly legal..

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Exactly [with regard to tax evasion]. And re. tax avoidance, it's perfectly legal..
    Tax avoidance is legal but so is peoples entitlement to benefit unclaimed.

    The point regarding this post is clear to see though isn’t it ?

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by TWGL1 View Post
    Tax avoidance is legal but so is peoples entitlement to benefit unclaimed.

    The point regarding this post is clear to see though isn’t it ?
    It is. People just don't like it because it spoils the narrative. There're also other columns that could be added over on the left. In-work benefits v out-of-work benefits v disability benefits. In-work benefits is another scandal and lets employers (and governments) off the hook re. living wages. Disabled people have been demonised, attacked and treated abominably since 2010 whilst tax-avoiders/government fraud/corporate fraud doesn't get the tabloid readers frothing.

    Kick the poor people. That's the British way.

    God save the King guvner.

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by pipster View Post
    How can they calculate tax avoided ? - isnt that the whole point of it - it has evaded them, they wont know how much - unless someone has guessed the figure and made something up ?
    It's almost as if some people can develop predictable mathematical models. Or do sums.

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    we know mr liniker the top hatted capitalist , avoided paying 5 mill just on his bbc earnings

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    Re: Benefit Fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by + the native hipster View Post
    we know mr liniker the top hatted capitalist , avoided paying 5 mill just on his bbc earnings
    Not forgetting the person Lorraine Kelly who doesn't actually present the TV programme LK Today. Instead it's a programme presented by a character named Lorraine, played by Lorraine Kelly, who's employed by Lorraine Kelly's own production company.

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