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    Going well isnt it.

  • #2
    Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

    Originally posted by Hilts View Post
    Yes, we so need the EU, a nation that ruled a quarter of the world 100 years ago trembles at going alone!
    How confidence can plummet in just a few generations

    So it's added 0.2% to food inlation. Yet we read 'The overall price of food and non-alcoholic beverages rose around 25% between January 2022 and January 2024'. Which per annum is over 12%. This is more than 60 times higher than 0.2%, proving that in the big picture, the main reasons for massive food inflation have virtually nothing to do with the EU at all.

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    • #3
      Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

      Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
      Yes, we so need the EU, a nation that ruled a quarter of the world 100 years ago trembles at going alone!
      How confidence can plummet in just a few generations

      So it's added 0.2% to food inlation. Yet we read 'The overall price of food and non-alcoholic beverages rose around 25% between January 2022 and January 2024'. Which per annum is over 12%. This is more than 60 times higher than 0.2%, proving that in the big picture, the main reasons for massive food inflation have virtually nothing to do with the EU at all.
      It's not about 'needing them', it's about what is best for UK people, business and jobs, we have made it more difficult to trade with the countries who are geographically closest to us in favour of some imaginary trade deals with places thousands of miles away.

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      • #4
        Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

        Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
        It's not about 'needing them', it's about what is best for UK people, business and jobs, we have made it more difficult to trade with the countries who are geographically closest to us in favour of some imaginary trade deals with places thousands of miles away.
        Sure, with us having no experience since 1973 in striking deals outside the membership of the common market and later the EU, we were never going to hit the ground running, a deal with Japan was signed in October 2020. It was the first that differed from the existing EU trade deal.

        The Australia deal was the first trade agreement negotiated from scratch by the UK since it left the EU. An agreement with Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein was announced in June 2021 and builds on the previous agreement the UK had with these countries. Many other deals including the USA are in the pipeline; so I would agree that while we negotiate the expected turbulence of this current 'season' we have cause for complaint, this transition like childbirth was never going to be pain free.

        While a deal with the States is looking no earlier than 2025, we have been told that things are moving forward in certain areas, for example in June 2023, Biden and Sunak announced the 'Atlantic Declaration' to strengthen economic ties between the UK and the US. The agreement included a limited trade pact covering critical minerals needed for EV batteries, a new data protection deal, and easing other trade barriers. The declaration commits both nations to increase research collaboration in future technologies, such as AI, future 5G and 6G telecoms, quantum, semiconductors and engineering biology. Further, these talks led to a commitment in principle to a new UK–US Data Bridge that facilitates the transfer of data by UK businesses to certified U.S. organizations.

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        • #5
          Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

          Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
          Sure, with us having no experience since 1973 in striking deals outside the membership of the common market and later the EU, we were never going to hit the ground running, a deal with Japan was signed in October 2020. It was the first that differed from the existing EU trade deal.

          The Australia deal was the first trade agreement negotiated from scratch by the UK since it left the EU. An agreement with Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein was announced in June 2021 and builds on the previous agreement the UK had with these countries. Many other deals including the USA are in the pipeline; so I would agree that while we negotiate the expected turbulence of this current 'season' we have cause for complaint, this transition like childbirth was never going to be pain free.

          While a deal with the States is looking no earlier than 2025, we have been told that things are moving forward in certain areas, for example in June 2023, Biden and Sunak announced the 'Atlantic Declaration' to strengthen economic ties between the UK and the US. The agreement included a limited trade pact covering critical minerals needed for EV batteries, a new data protection deal, and easing other trade barriers. The declaration commits both nations to increase research collaboration in future technologies, such as AI, future 5G and 6G telecoms, quantum, semiconductors and engineering biology. Further, these talks led to a commitment in principle to a new UK–US Data Bridge that facilitates the transfer of data by UK businesses to certified U.S. organizations.
          I haven’t looked at this board in ages is this a new wind up account

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          • #6
            Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

            Originally posted by superfeathers View Post
            I haven’t looked at this board in ages is this a new wind up account
            Ages being over 13 years in this case.

            No wind up, it's just that there are some people alive who remember how life was before 1973

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            • #7
              Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

              I am surprised a religious person is also anti European and right wing politically

              Actually I am not surprised at all , the churches are full of em

              It's very odd

              If Jesus was a tory I am definitely not joining his gang

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                Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                I am surprised a religious person is also anti European and right wing politically

                Actually I am not surprised at all , the churches are full of em

                It's very odd

                If Jesus was a tory I am definitely not joining his gang
                Well he obviously wasn’t. The Daily Mail would have denounced him as a foreign communist

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                • #9
                  Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

                  Originally posted by Dave Blue View Post
                  Well he obviously wasn’t. The Daily Mail would have denounced him as a foreign communist
                  It does concern me a lot of church on a Sunday types are tory voters

                  And Daily Mail readers

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                  • #10
                    Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

                    Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                    I am surprised a religious person is also anti European and right wing politically

                    Actually I am not surprised at all , the churches are full of em

                    It's very odd

                    If Jesus was a tory I am definitely not joining his gang
                    Your comment arrives with the assumption that you know the aims of the Church Worldwide (no one denomination) and the way they are asked to live in each era they may be serving the Lord. Do you? (If so explain what it is).

                    While Christians will wish to impact their communities for good where they live (or where they are sent), very few will take more than a passing interest in the ever changing world of politics, which is mainly caught up in secular values and interests that sadly now pay little attention to the way God says we should live.
                    Some (a minority) will be called into politics and will aim to bring Godly values into their work, impacting the sphere in which they are working, locally, nationally or internationally etc

                    On your last point, Jesus didn't get involved with the rulers of the day, He said 'Give to Caesar that which is Caesars, and to God that which belongs to God' - when He was brought before the rulers, He quoted the Scriptures, in other words He gave us the example of leaning on Godly wisdom, not human wisdom.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

                      Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                      Your comment arrives with the assumption that you know the aims of the Church Worldwide (no one denomination) and the way they are asked to live in each era they may be serving the Lord. Do you? (If so explain what it is).

                      While Christians will wish to impact their communities for good where they live (or where they are sent), very few will take more than a passing interest in the ever changing world of politics, which is mainly caught up in secular values and interests that sadly now pay little attention to the way God says we should live.
                      Some (a minority) will be called into politics and will aim to bring Godly values into their work, impacting the sphere in which they are working, locally, nationally or internationally etc

                      On your last point, Jesus didn't get involved with the rulers of the day, He said 'Give to Caesar that which is Caesars, and to God that which belongs to God' - when He was brought before the rulers, He quoted the Scriptures, in other words He gave us the example of leaning on Godly wisdom, not human wisdom.
                      The people I know who are church goers are almost exclusively active conservatives

                      I think it's odd that a party that doesn't believe in society and is all about self gets a lot of its followers from Christians who are supposed to be caring and like Jesus

                      Difficult to square that one

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                      • #12
                        Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

                        Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                        The people I know who are church goers are almost exclusively active conservatives

                        I think it's odd that a party that doesn't believe in society and is all about self gets a lot of its followers from Christians who are supposed to be caring and like Jesus

                        Difficult to square that one
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                        • #13
                          Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

                          Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                          The people I know who are church goers are almost exclusively active conservatives

                          I think it's odd that a party that doesn't believe in society and is all about self gets a lot of its followers from Christians who are supposed to be caring and like Jesus

                          Difficult to square that one
                          I know Christians from many denominational Churches at home and abroad, and while politics is hardly a key issue, I've not seen them all line up in 'blue' by any means?
                          And even those who are blue, in what sense do you mean they all somehow don't believe in society?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

                            There's no prospect of a UK US trade deal this year. Any negotiations will be after the next elections in both countries, and given the ack of willingness of both Trump and Biden to pursue a deal during the last 7 or 8 years, I can't see it being a priority for whomever wins in November.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Another Brexit Bonus !!!

                              Originally posted by truthpaste View Post
                              I know Christians from many denominational Churches at home and abroad, and while politics is hardly a key issue, I've not seen them all line up in 'blue' by any means?
                              And even those who are blue, in what sense do you mean they all somehow don't believe in society?
                              There is no such thing as society , only individuals

                              Herr Thatcher

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