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Ok. So you’re not a doom monger, but you have to accept that others feel different to you. At the end of the day, we are all City fans, and we all want the best for the club. Getting that squad to finish 12th, was a decent effort, even if the football wasn’t pretty. I think he deserves one more season. You obviously don’t. Let’s just agree to disagree 👍
This every day - until we have someone in decision making positions that understands football or the current lot learn lessons (and they don't show any evidence of that) then we will continue to lurch from shit show to shit show and get lucky now and again like Warnock and malky
This isn't a today problem it's a deep seated systemic issue with the way out club is run
Anyway the way the premier league is most if not all clubs going up are cannon fodder for the elite and our last two visits weren't that much of a joy
Lets not forget prior to Malkys appointment we suddenly went all out to get Alan Shearer as manager. He went well odds on and looked certain to be appointed but eventually said no. We then went back to Malky.
Wonder how Shearer would have worked out.?
Yes, Tan was apparently almost a sleeping partner during his initial involvement. Gethin Jenkins was the CEO, TG was the chairman and the club had directors such as Alan Whiteley and Steve Borley who were actively involved in the decision-making.
I believe Tan only began getting seriously involved after that season had got underway, and one of his first major decisions was to relieve Jenkins (the man who had been credited with overseeing Mackay’s appointment) of his duties.
I was at the CCS for a travel meeting when the news about Jenkins emerged. He came into the meeting, thanked us for our support and told us Tan was offloading him as he believed he was ‘unlucky’ (I’m quoting Jenkins there).
That, for me, was the first sign that Tan might be a problem, but the rest of the season went well enough and we heard little about Vinnie until the rebrand leak.
I'd forgotten about that, but it came ad went as an option very quickly. Article here: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...f-2297414.html
I've said it before and I'll no doubt say it again, we need an owner who takes a back seat and appoints an experienced (in football) CEO to run the club. Take a look at how Ipswich have progressed under Mark Ashton for example.
Instead we have Dalman and Choo part time with Tan sticking his oar in, none of whom have any background in football.
Tan replaced Gethin Jenkins with Alan Whiteley initially, but once Whiteley had completed the onerous task of introducing Tan’s vanity project he was binned too. I may be getting the timelines mixed up, but wasn’t Simon Lim the next in line?
Tan also ditched TG around the same time. I’d love to know the background to that story, but it never really emerged.
Yes, Simon Lim was the appointment from within Berjaya Corp (I think it was the hotels division). FWIW when TG's name first appeared I asked my Malaysian contact if they knew anything about him, the initial response being "never heard of him, I will find out". Next day I was told TG was a "front man for Vincent Tan" and given a run down on VT.
TG moving on appears consistent with his role as a "front man" while VT assessed the investment and it not being planned as a long term involvement.
That was my point as well - length of service doesn't equate to competence and it is clear they don't learn their lessons and don't have a plan - Dalman said as much when bulut was appointed and that this was due to change - I've seen no change at all over the last 10 months - drawn out decision making in the manager appointment, suffering an embargo for a fee we should have paid up front and paid eventually anyway and then the FFP fiasco of the transfer window in January
Changing or keeping the manager won't be the solution as we are treating a symptom and not a cause
As stated I was told TG was acting as a "front man" for VT. I have no information on how the arrangement came about or (perhaps more importantly) even if Cardiff City were the first club that VT was looking at investing in. It is no doubt possible that TG was working with a broader "football investment" brief on VT's behalf before taking an interest in (and introducing VT to) Cardiff City.