A driving question.

[Dembe]

Just to add a further twist I was informed that drivers under instruction are now being taught at roundabouts to only signal to exit the roundabout.

You know if there’s 3 or 4 lanes going around a roundabout to me it makes sense to signal to people waiting to enter the roundabout that you are continuing to navigate the thing and not just jump across whenever you’re ready.

Not in my daughter's case.

[splott parker]

Was in Turkey for the Wales game last year, stayed in Istanbul. Now the driving situation there is a sight to behold. I don’t know if they were shit drivers for nearly crashing into each other or brilliant drivers for the split second avoidance of hitting each other.

[Dembe]

Was in Turkey for the Wales game last year, stayed in Istanbul. Now the driving situation there is a sight to behold. I don’t know if they were shit drivers for nearly crashing into each other or brilliant drivers for the split second avoidance of hitting each other.

I liked Ibiza where they sped up if they saw tourists at the zebra crossings they had dotted all over.

[Des Parrot]

I’d have undertaken them as we’ll & do regularly. I understood that driving in the middle lane for more than 1/2 mile (with left lane empty) was now illegal.

Since 4 lane motorways have evolved, the joggers now sit in lane 3.

[Father Dougal]

Should the middle lane actually be called overtaking lane 1 and the right hand lane overtaking lane 2 to reflect what they actually are?

[Jimmy the Jock]

I regularly undertake the middle lane hoggers, , the most disappointing thing to me is most of them are in dream world , oblivious to their surroundings and other vehicles .

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

I think going past slower moving cars then indicating to pull carefully in front of them is safe and sensible

I also think on a Sunday when the boys on the Hondas and Truimphs are in a convey slowing down in that left lane and letting them all pass safely by waving them on is the way to go

You can't do much about idiots on the road and I am amazed some people have passed their test but in general keeping your distance and awareness of your speed is the best option

[North Cardiff Blue]

Middle lane hoggers. Passed about 9 in the left lane Saturday night going to work, as I reached the front of team lane hog the nearest vehicle ahead of me was a lorry some half a mile up the Motorway, there was one more car to my right to pass. I didn't leave the left lane and had the car on cruise control doing the limit 70mph. Absolutely no reason for any of them to be in the middle lane, the one leading them all tried to pull in front of me without indicating, they were just going to swerve in front of me so I give a single beep. If they'd come over I'd have to slow down to 60 and be boxed in by the other 8 cars following the idiot...the second time they moved over they did then use their indicator but I was ridiculously close to them at this point and it was dangerous. They still went for it, for some reason.
At this point I hit the horn hard and long and left my full beams on so they could see me. They swerved back, utterly unaware I was even there (even after the first friendly beep)


I don't generally moan about middle lane hoggers, usually move around them if its safe to do so, or on occasion I'll stay in the left lane and undertake but its usually only the one vehicle plodding along so its never really an issue.

Got thinking to myself once I'd stopped beeping at them for 30 seconds straight and they'd got back into their lane, was I in the right or wrong to be undertaking? I wouldn't have got past the 9 cars in the right doing 70 before someone wanted to pass me doing 80+ and thought the safest way to pass was doing the road limit in the left lane.

This was not too far after the change back to 70 after the 50 averages, so cars in the right were obviously speeding up to make up for the 2 minutes they'd lost doing 50.

Opinions?

Sounds like ten idiots all on the road at the same time, amazing there wasn't an accident.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I regularly undertake the middle lane hoggers, , the most disappointing thing to me is most of them are in dream world , oblivious to their surroundings and other vehicles .

So annoying and idiots, but passing nine in a line on the inside, lots of accident like that every day

[jon1959]

Why? It’s a long time since I learned to drive (fifty years November in fact), so things may well have changed since then, but I was told at the time I should always use my indicators when changing lanes. That’s what I’ve done all my life, so I don’t get why indicating left why changing lanes on a motorway is now considered unacceptable.

Me too.

The cars behind always appreciateva polite left signal when I move in front of them - if they happen to look up from their texting!

[Dembe]

Me too.

The cars behind always appreciateva polite left signal when I move in front of them - if they happen to look up from their texting!

Theres a hospital near me and the amount of staff that drive out of there looking at their phones amazes me, its not just kids like people will have you believe, a lot of them are old enough to know better. What is so important it cant wait the 30 minute journey home?

[bobh]

I didn't pick up on this either, imagine the chaos if people did this on fast moving motorways and duel carriageways.

Sound horns at 50 paces?


Re: London driving and roundabouts -
There is a story, maybe an urban myth, that many years ago, police were called to investigate why a car was parked on the middle of the Hyde Park Corner roundabout (the one with the Wellington Arch)
Cops drove up, got out and approached the car to find a "little old lady" in the driver's seat, crying.
"I can't get off!" she sobbed. She had been going round and round, got caught in the inner lane and no-one would leave a gap for her to exit.


Re: indicating when changing lanes on a motorway -
If it wasn't for this, I may have been involved in a nasty smash.
I was driving along theM4, just before the M4/M5 split, in lane 1.
I wanted to continue on the M4 to glorious Wales, so indicated and pulled into lane 2.
Ahead, I could see several cars indicating the same, but also a few indicating to go from 2 to 1.
I thought I'd get past in case there was trouble, so indicated and pulled into lane 3.
When i finished that move, I looked ahead again and saw a van going over the hard shoulder onto the bank, another car swerving right and left as iif trying, i=unsuccessfully, to keep control - it then spun around to face the wrong way.
I drove past (not smugly!), pulled over and called the plod.

A month later I had a stroke and got medically DQ for life - clean licence and 13 years NCB up the swannee