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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    In the space of 24 hours, it does rather seem that the phrase One rule for us, another for everyone else applies to the Labour Party more now.

    Morally, there is no way that travelling across the country and drinking booze and eating pizza in the evening prior to an election with people is less of an issue than people working together in the most important office in the country who are tested daily, sharing a cake.

    Nonetheless, there we are.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    In the space of 24 hours, it does rather seem that the phrase One rule for us, another for everyone else applies to the Labour Party more now.

    Morally, there is no way that travelling across the country and drinking booze and eating pizza in the evening prior to an election with people is less of an issue than people working together in the most important office in the country who are tested daily, sharing a cake.

    Nonetheless, there we are.
    I feel your pain. Must be awful for you. Crushed.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    In the space of 24 hours, it does rather seem that the phrase One rule for us, another for everyone else applies to the Labour Party more now.

    Morally, there is no way that travelling across the country and drinking booze and eating pizza in the evening prior to an election with people is less of an issue than people working together in the most important office in the country who are tested daily, sharing a cake.

    Nonetheless, there we are.
    Of course JW knows more about this case than the Durham Constabulary as he truly is the font of all knowledge

    Thoughts and prayers to you at this difficult time.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Blue View Post
    Of course JW knows more about this case than the Durham Constabulary as he truly is the font of all knowledge.
    It's obvious that the Met only fined Johnson and his cronies because the force is a corrupt collection of anti-Tory lefties. And the Durham Constabulary only let Starmer and Rayner off because that force is also a corrupt collection anti-Tory lefties. One rule for Labour, another for the Tories. Or something like that.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    In the space of 24 hours, it does rather seem that the phrase One rule for us, another for everyone else applies to the Labour Party more now.

    Morally, there is no way that travelling across the country and drinking booze and eating pizza in the evening prior to an election with people is less of an issue than people working together in the most important office in the country who are tested daily, sharing a cake.

    Nonetheless, there we are.
    Played right into their hands the Dailly Mail and Sun can refer back to this for years One rule for them one rule for us could stick, when Ben or Tom can bury it all with Boris and a clean slate.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue View Post
    Played right into their hands the Dailly Mail and Sun can refer back to this for years One rule for them one rule for us could stick, when Ben or Tom can bury it all with Boris and a clean slate.
    ok sure

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    In the space of 24 hours, it does rather seem that the phrase One rule for us, another for everyone else applies to the Labour Party more now.

    Morally, there is no way that travelling across the country and drinking booze and eating pizza in the evening prior to an election with people is less of an issue than people working together in the most important office in the country who are tested daily, sharing a cake.

    Nonetheless, there we are.
    Well quite, The true score should probably be about 5-1 to Boris on FPNs rather than 1-0 based on everything we know.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    In the space of 24 hours, it does rather seem that the phrase One rule for us, another for everyone else applies to the Labour Party more now.

    Morally, there is no way that travelling across the country and drinking booze and eating pizza in the evening prior to an election with people is less of an issue than people working together in the most important office in the country who are tested daily, sharing a cake.

    Nonetheless, there we are.
    ...who are tested daily, sharing a cake.
    How sh*t must they be if they can't even share a cake properly?

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    In the space of 24 hours, it does rather seem that the phrase One rule for us, another for everyone else applies to the Labour Party more now.

    Morally, there is no way that travelling across the country and drinking booze and eating pizza in the evening prior to an election with people is less of an issue than people working together in the most important office in the country who are tested daily, sharing a cake.

    Nonetheless, there we are.
    I was surprised when Johnson was fined just the once, but accepted the decision the Met made, you should do the same here. The Police (the same force that took no action against Dominic Cummings at a time when the Tories were on his side) have investigated the Labour leader and his deputy and decided that there is no case to answer - frankly, your one rule for Labour and another rule for everyone else nonsense is a pretty feeble effort, it’s as if you thought you have to post something because it’s what your expected to do, but your heart wasn’t really in it.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I was surprised when Johnson was fined just the once, but accepted the decision the Met made, you should do the same here. The Police (the same force that took no action against Dominic Cummings at a time when the Tories were on his side) have investigated the Labour leader and his deputy and decided that there is no case to answer - frankly, your one rule for Labour and another rule for everyone else nonsense is a pretty feeble effort, it’s as if you thought you have to post something because it’s what your expected to do, but your heart wasn’t really in it.
    More a case of his mask slipping, as it does occasionally, away from his Mr. Balance/Nuance act.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    I was surprised when Johnson was fined just the once, but accepted the decision the Met made, you should do the same here. The Police (the same force that took no action against Dominic Cummings at a time when the Tories were on his side) have investigated the Labour leader and his deputy and decided that there is no case to answer - frankly, your one rule for Labour and another rule for everyone else nonsense is a pretty feeble effort, it’s as if you thought you have to post something because it’s what your expected to do, but your heart wasn’t really in it.
    I completely accept it.

    It's just in the context of the old adage "One rule for them, another for us" this now applies to Labour more than the Tories. Johnson has lost his job. Rishi Sunak was fined. Starmer has gotten away with it on the technicality that they continued working after drinking beer..as if no one did so after Johnson ate cake.

    You guys know there is a clear inconsistency here.

    As I've said all along - both are completely taken out of all proportion, especially when we see everything else happening in the world.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I completely accept it.

    It's just in the context of the old adage "One rule for them, another for us" this now applies to Labour more than the Tories. Johnson has lost his job. Rishi Sunak was fined. Starmer has gotten away with it on the technicality that they continued working after drinking beer..as if no one did so after Johnson ate cake.

    You guys know there is a clear inconsistency here.

    As I've said all along - both are completely taken out of all proportion, especially when we see everything else happening in the world.
    Yes, yes, we do.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I completely accept it.

    It's just in the context of the old adage "One rule for them, another for us" this now applies to Labour more than the Tories. Johnson has lost his job. Starmer has gotten away with it on the technicality that they continued working after drinking beer..as if no one did so after Johnson ate cake.

    You guys know there is a clear inconsistency here.

    As I've said all along - both are completely taken out of all proportion, especially when we see everything else happening in the world.


    It was pretty obvious that Starmer wasn't going to get fined, as I've been saying all along.

    In the meantime HUNDREDS of fines were handed out to those at Downing street and it seems pretty fortunate that Boris Johnson only got one.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post


    It was pretty obvious that Starmer wasn't going to get fined, as I've been saying all along.

    In the meantime HUNDREDS of fines were handed out to those at Downing street and it seems pretty fortunate that Boris Johnson only got one.
    The Guardian are leading with James Wales' Face Found In Johnson's Cake

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I completely accept it.

    It's just in the context of the old adage "One rule for them, another for us" this now applies to Labour more than the Tories. Johnson has lost his job. Rishi Sunak was fined. Starmer has gotten away with it on the technicality that they continued working after drinking beer..as if no one did so after Johnson ate cake.



    You guys know there is a clear inconsistency here.

    As I've said all along - both are completely taken out of all proportion, especially when we see everything else happening in the world.

    Good god! Do you work for the Forgers Gazette?

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    [QUOTE=JamesWales;5319228]I completely accept it.

    It's just in the context of the old adage "One rule for them, another for us" this now applies to Labour more than the Tories. Johnson has lost his job. Rishi Sunak was fined. Starmer has gotten away with it on the technicality that they continued working after drinking beer..as if no one did so after Johnson ate cake.

    You guys know there is a clear inconsistency here.

    As I've said all along - both are completely taken out of all proportion, especially when we see everything else happening in the world.[/QUOTE
    How can you argue that we’re talking about the same thing in every case? Concentrating on Johnson for now, he was investigated for multiple parties/work gatherings and, for whatever reason, it was decided only one of them warranted a fine - using your logic, Johnson should have been fined for all of them or none. To do that, is to ignore nuance - as I mentioned earlier, I still struggle to believe Johnson was deemed to be doing nothing wrong in those pictures that were released, but he was and that’s an end to it, there was clearly a degree of nuance involved in the decisions the Met came to.

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    Re: Starmer and Rayner cleared.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I completely accept it.

    It's just in the context of the old adage "One rule for them, another for us" this now applies to Labour more than the Tories. Johnson has lost his job. Rishi Sunak was fined. Starmer has gotten away with it on the technicality that they continued working after drinking beer..as if no one did so after Johnson ate cake.

    You guys know there is a clear inconsistency here.

    As I've said all along - both are completely taken out of all proportion, especially when we see everything else happening in the world.
    Just think back to what it took for the met to even investigate the Tory parties. And before that, it needed that video of their practice press conference to be leaked for any of us to know about it.

    So yes, one rule for the Tories still applies, I'm afraid, even if number 10 received more fines than any other building in the country. Once the met had been shamed into investigating, it was so bad that even they couldn't continue turning a blind eye.

    Compared to that, Starmers beer at work was nothing as everyone else on here knows. Plus Johnson lied to parliament about it on a number of different occasions.

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