The Donald Trump thread

[cyril evans awaydays]

Still no result from Iowa I see. We can argue about leaders like Trump and Johnson on here, but one thing I think there might be agreement on is that they both get considerable help for their cause from the main opposition party.

I think that there is a wave of populism that will have its time even if there was a more credible opposition. That said the opposition in the UK and US has struggled for credible leaders and the chaos in Iowa just gives an impression of incompetence that is difficult to shake off in the same way that Corbyn was unable or unwilling to ward off the stigma of anti-semitism.

Basically that is why Trump and his cronies have gone to the extremes they have to nobble Joe Biden. He looks the only one, perhaps Bloomberg, who could present himself to the country as a Presidential alternative. Trump would be ecstatic to go up against someone like Sanders who he can paint as a dangerous Socialist.

The risk for the Democrats is that the distain for Trump will engender the same outcome as for Labour in the UK where a membership more radical than the voters they need to win may see getting one of their own in place is more important than a credible leader who does not share their values.

[Wales-Bales]

I think that there is a wave of populism that will have its time even if there was a more credible opposition. That said the opposition in the UK and US has struggled for credible leaders and the chaos in Iowa just gives an impression of incompetence that is difficult to shake off in the same way that Corbyn was unable or unwilling to ward off the stigma of anti-semitism.

Basically that is why Trump and his cronies have gone to the extremes they have to nobble Joe Biden. He looks the only one, perhaps Bloomberg, who could present himself to the country as a Presidential alternative. Trump would be ecstatic to go up against someone like Sanders who he can paint as a dangerous Socialist.

The risk for the Democrats is that the distain for Trump will engender the same outcome as for Labour in the UK where a membership more radical than the voters they need to win may see getting one of their own in place is more important than a credible leader who does not share their values.

Why do you think it is incompetence? It looks pretty organised from where I am sitting. Biden had to be propped up for the impeachment narrative to work. Now that it's over, I expect to see him to drop like a lead balloon.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Why do you think it is incompetence? It looks pretty organised from where I am sitting. Biden had to be propped up for the impeachment narrative to work. Now that it's over, I expect to see him to drop like a lead balloon.

What, it's all some kind of conspiracy, for want of a better word, you reckon?

[Wales-Bales]

What, it's all some kind of conspiracy, for want of a better word, you reckon?

You mean just like the Steel dossier conspiracy, the Russia collusion conspiracy, the Mueller investigation conspiracy, and the impeachment conspiracy?

[cyril evans awaydays]

You mean just like the Steel dossier conspiracy, the Russia collusion conspiracy, the Mueller investigation conspiracy, and the impeachment conspiracy?

Ah, it's Red Pill Rule #1

[life on mars]

I think that there is a wave of populism that will have its time even if there was a more credible opposition. That said the opposition in the UK and US has struggled for credible leaders and the chaos in Iowa just gives an impression of incompetence that is difficult to shake off in the same way that Corbyn was unable or unwilling to ward off the stigma of anti-semitism.

Basically that is why Trump and his cronies have gone to the extremes they have to nobble Joe Biden. He looks the only one, perhaps Bloomberg, who could present himself to the country as a Presidential alternative. Trump would be ecstatic to go up against someone like Sanders who he can paint as a dangerous Socialist.

The risk for the Democrats is that the distain for Trump will engender the same outcome as for Labour in the UK where a membership more radical than the voters they need to win may see getting one of their own in place is more important than a credible leader who does not share their values.

Why did Corbyns populism fail then ?

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-democracy-mps



I think election results, is more to do with poor opposition.