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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Was this the "hacking" story you were referencing a while back? Where are we with any charges?
    The key to the door has been unlocked, and from hereon in the whole house of cards could fall very quickly. Since they have the husband and the wife their stories could unravel fast. Wasserman Schultz is next in the firing line, and who knows where it will go from there. An indictment means they cannot flee the country and further investigations are currently ongoing. There is a lot of info on the internet laying out the potential crimes that they have commited. In fact, it is from these investigations by alternative media and private citizens that brought about these initial charges. The DNC and certain law enforcement agencies tried to bury the whole thing. It will also be interesting where this all of this fits in with the pending Assange revelations. Awan is known to have been associated with Seth Rich.

    The fightback begins ... http://uk.businessinsider.com/assang...ruption-2017-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The key to the door has been unlocked, and from hereon in the whole house of cards could fall very quickly. Since they have the husband and the wife their stories could unravel fast. Wasserman Schultz is next in the firing line, and who knows where it will go from there. An indictment means they cannot flee the country and further investigations are currently ongoing. There is a lot of info on the internet laying out the potential crimes that they have commited. In fact, it is from these investigations by alternative media and private citizens that brought about these initial charges. The DNC and certain law enforcement agencies tried to bury the whole thing. It will also be interesting where this all of this fits in with the pending Assange revelations. Awan is known to have been associated with Seth Rich.

    The fightback begins ... http://uk.businessinsider.com/assang...ruption-2017-8
    You did read the Fox News report?

    Attorney Christopher Gowen told Fox News that federal authorities have no evidence of misconduct by Awan relating to his IT duties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    You did read the Fox News report?

    Attorney Christopher Gowen told Fox News that federal authorities have no evidence of misconduct by Awan relating to his IT duties.
    Yes I read it. I also wrote above that "The DNC and certain law enforcement agencies tried to bury the whole thing". I think that should clear up any confusion.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yes I read it. I also wrote above that "The DNC and certain law enforcement agencies tried to bury the whole thing". I think that should clear up any confusion.
    So on some issues you are unable to form a judgment until the FBI or DoJ press charges but when charges are pressed following an investigation of the available evidence it is down to soft pedalling. Exhausting stuff this conspiracy theorising it never seems to provide closure!

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So on some issues you are unable to form a judgment until the FBI or DoJ press charges but when charges are pressed following an investigation of the available evidence it is down to soft pedalling. Exhausting stuff this conspiracy theorising it never seems to provide closure!
    You can attack me personally as much as you want, but you won't stop any of these events happening. The thing is, we all have access to the same information, but all you saw was the Russians and more Russians. You need to realise that the problem is with the functionion of your brain and nothing to do with me. You are easily led.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You can attack me personally as much as you want, but you won't stop any of these events happening. The thing is, we all have access to the same information, but all you saw was the Russians and more Russians. You need to realise that the problem is with the functionion of your brain and nothing to do with me. You are easily led.
    Apologies if you think this is a personal attack. I don't think I mentioned the Russians. All I am trying to understand is the substance behind the innuendo and suggestions in the information you and I have accessed. What I have read is that the Awan family could be a Pakistani spy cell, who have infiltrated the DNC via Wassermann Shultz (perhaps by the accused sleeping with her) to have gained access to DNC information. This could well be the information that was passed to Wiki-Leaks probably by Seth Rich who was then silenced, possibly by Awan who knew him.

    Set against this we have a criminal investigation by the authorities that has indicted Awan on fraud charges. On the balance of probabilities my brain tells me this is probably all there is. I respect your right to think otherwise but like my easily led views I would not expect those views of what happened to go unchallenged (when we know what those views are)

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Apologies if you think this is a personal attack. I don't think I mentioned the Russians. All I am trying to understand is the substance behind the innuendo and suggestions in the information you and I have accessed. What I have read is that the Awan family could be a Pakistani spy cell, who have infiltrated the DNC via Wassermann Shultz (perhaps by the accused sleeping with her) to have gained access to DNC information. This could well be the information that was passed to Wiki-Leaks probably by Seth Rich who was then silenced, possibly by Awan who knew him.

    Set against this we have a criminal investigation by the authorities that has indicted Awan on fraud charges. On the balance of probabilities my brain tells me this is probably all there is. I respect your right to think otherwise but like my easily led views I would not expect those views of what happened to go unchallenged (when we know what those views are)
    The Daily Caller and George Webb have looked into the Awan family extensively. Have the MSM covered any of it? No they haven't. A good question to ask is why not? The matter has been brought up by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley on numerous occasions. All the MSM have done is conduct a hatchet job on Rep Devin Nunes, and constantly go on about the Russians. Well IMO it is all starting to unravel, so just sit back and enjoy the ride. There is a very good reason why Trump consistently refers to the MSM as fake news, it's because they constantly report fake news. The genie is out of the bottle and it's not going back inside anytime soon.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So on some issues you are unable to form a judgment until the FBI or DoJ press charges but when charges are pressed following an investigation of the available evidence it is down to soft pedalling. Exhausting stuff this conspiracy theorising it never seems to provide closure!
    The word is conclusive evidence. Hillary got away without charge regarding her email server, but many people know what she did. That's why Congress have opened a new investigation. Corruption and collision is a very big problem.

  9. #9

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    Its a nice little game you've got going here. When pressures on and your cupboard is empty you say:

    For the pizzagate stuff:
    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Conclusive evidence = prosecutions or the published findings from an official public enquiry. Neither have happened, so in the meantime all outcomes are inconclusive in my opinion.
    Or the terrorist in Charlottesville:
    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Like I said above I'm waiting for the FBI/DOJ to look into this before I make any comments. There seems to be a lot more going on than what the media are reporting.
    But when the authorities do speak and it's the 'wrong' answer we have:

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yes I read it. I also wrote above that "The DNC and certain law enforcement agencies tried to bury the whole thing". I think that should clear up any confusion.

  10. #10

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Its a nice little game you've got going here. When pressures on and your cupboard is empty you say:

    For the pizzagate stuff:


    Or the terrorist in Charlottesville:


    But when the authorities do speak and it's the 'wrong' answer we have:
    You need to factor in corruption and collision. Your thesis only works if the system is sqeaky clean.

  11. #11

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You need to factor in corruption and collision. Your thesis only works if the system is sqeaky clean.
    I think you've missed the point.

  12. #12

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I think you've missed the point.
    I haven't missed any point. We all know what Tony Blair did but he is still a free man. You still have to get past he system, no matter what the evidence is.

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