Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
He actually wrote an essay and I have read it before. What he described in it was totalitarianism in my opinion although he didn't actually provide a lot of evidence for the claims he was making about government interference in private industry either (however likely they seem).

If your (or his, as it seems) point is that Nazi Germany is an example of community ownership and regulation of the means of production then you are vastly overestimating the freedom and influence that the average German person had during this period.

I don't doubt it fits your warped view of socialism but the fact I knew what you were going to post before you did suggests this view isn't widely held.


Well you see , I have both a personal view of socialism and what I'm fairly confident is an understanding of its nature and history. They're quite different things, the former being formed by the latter.

The fact that you choose to describe either as "warped" speaks volumes though. Since I haven't set either out, I can deduce that you are offended - and PERSONALLY offended -by the very fact that someone has questioned that philosophy . Interesting then, that you used the term " totalitarianism" in your post, because such a reaction to dissent is an indication of that.

Rational men can discuss matters and perhaps learn something from such conversations, but you can never convince a fanatic of any type to consider alternative views.

I did say at the outset that there was little point in arguing the toss on the point because I suspected that your beliefs were pretty set in stone, and your somewhat angry response bears that out.

Incidentally , and I digress entirely , if you knew what I was going to post before I did that suggests either that you're psychic or that the view must be quite widely held because you'd apparently heard it expressed before.

That said, the test of truth really isn't how widely something is believed, but whether it's true.