Expectations

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Where would we have to finish for Warnock to lose his job? Outside the top 6? Outside the top half?

If we aren't challenging for top 6, he will go or at least he'll go at the end of the season. We'd have to be like 11th or 12th, unless for some reason the top 6 are miles ahead of the rest.

[J R Hartley]

If we aren't challenging for top 6, he will go or at least he'll go at the end of the season. We'd have to be like 11th or 12th, unless for some reason the top 6 are miles ahead of the rest.

He wont have the excuse of "little ol Cardiff" or "Tight budget" excuse that hes enjoyed for much of his tenure here.

This season is different to the other 2 Championship seasons hes managed us, expectation will be higher and rightly so.

Weve spent a fortune on the squad by Championship standards.

Anything less than play-offs will be a failure.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

He wont have the excuse of "little ol Cardiff" or "Tight budget" excuse that hes enjoyed for much of his tenure here.

This season is different to the other 2 Championship seasons hes managed us, expectation will be higher and rightly so.

Weve spent a fortune on the squad by Championship standards.

Anything less than play-offs will be a failure.

Indeed but it's also good to have it that way. We should be serious contenders. Interesting team selection yesterday, have a pretty good idea of what his first choice XI is!

[J R Hartley]

Indeed but it's also good to have it that way. We should be serious contenders. Interesting team selection yesterday, have a pretty good idea of what his first choice XI is!

I certainly dont want to hear him fawning over the opposition like he did last year, and he was also guilty of it the year we got promoted.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I certainly dont want to hear him fawning over the opposition like he did last year, and he was also guilty of it the year we got promoted.

Yes but Reading are a really good side this year, as are Wigan so how can we compete with the likes of them?

[J R Hartley]

Yes but Reading are a really good side this year, as are Wigan so how can we compete with the likes of them?

What about Charlton? Smashing club Charlton. Back where they belong. We should be lucky to grace the pitch with such a great club.

[Steve the Tea]

He wont have the excuse of "little ol Cardiff" or "Tight budget" excuse that hes enjoyed for much of his tenure here.

This season is different to the other 2 Championship seasons hes managed us, expectation will be higher and rightly so.

Weve spent a fortune on the squad by Championship standards.

Anything less than play-offs will be a failure.

Don't you just love revisionists. Why let facts get in the way of opinion? I'm not knocking you JRH, just want to state some facts.

Let's look at the facts.

Malky Mackay Spending 2012-13 in Champ
- he inherited just 9 players (3 of those were g/kprs).
- he spent under £12m in 2 seasons and got promoted
2011-12: Spent ... £2.84m
Recouped ... £1.93m
Debt ... £0.91m debt
2012-13: Spent ... £13.08m
Recouped ... £1.54m
Debt ... £11.54m

That was a net debt on transfers of £12.45m after inheriting 6 outfield players, gaining promotion in two seasons. Hardly spending badly nor excessive.

City then won the Championship by EIGHT POINTS and a goal difference of PLUS 27.

In the 2013-14 PL season Malky spent £45.82m on transfer fees recouping £3.74m during the season; a debt of £42.08m.

Sunsequently ...
- Caulker was sold for £10.75m
- Medel was sold for £8m
- Mutch was sold for £7.57m
- Brayford was sold for £2.3m

I can't see how it was badly spent if we recouped virtually what we paid for the players.

... thereby recouping £28.62m and making a spend of £13.46m on players Malky signed for the PL campaign.


This makes a net outlay of £25.91m for his two and a half seasons. Not bad when inheriting just 6 outfield players.

Much is written about the Cornelius fiasco despite being injured for 5 of his 6 months at City. The signing of Madine has been far worse considering he's been fit yet hasn't look like scoring a goal for the first team or reserves. Yes, we lost £5m on Cornelius yet no-one says a word about Mutch. Malky signed for him £1.25m yet was sold for 4 times that.

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Fees as per: https://www.transfermarkt.com/cardif...ers/verein/603

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[J R Hartley]

Don't you just love revisionists. Why let facts get in the way of opinion? I'm not knocking you JRH, just want to state some facts.

Let's look at the facts.

Malky Mackay Spending 2012-13 in Champ
- he inherited just 9 players (3 of those were g/kprs).
- he spent under £12m in 2 seasons and got promoted
2011-12: Spent ... £2.84m
Recouped ... £1.93m
Debt ... £0.91m debt
2012-13: Spent ... £13.08m
Recouped ... £1.54m
Debt ... £11.54m

That was a net debt on transfers of £12.45m after inheriting 6 outfield players, gaining promotion in two seasons. Hardly spending badly nor excessive.

City then won the Championship by EIGHT POINTS and a goal difference of PLUS 27.

In the 2013-14 PL season Malky spent £45.82m on transfer fees recouping £3.74m during the season; a debt of £42.08m.

Sunsequently ...
- Caulker was sold for £10.75m
- Medel was sold for £8m
- Mutch was sold for £7.57m
- Brayford was sold for £2.3m

I can't see how it was badly spent if we recouped virtually what we paid for the players.

... thereby recouping £28.62m and making a spend of £13.46m on players Malky signed for the PL campaign.


This makes a net outlay of £25.91m for his two and a half seasons. Not bad when inheriting just 6 outfield players.

Much is written about the Cornelius fiasco despite being injured for 5 of his 6 months at City. The signing of Madine has been far worse considering he's been fit yet hasn't look like scoring a goal for the first team or reserves. Yes, we lost £5m on Cornelius yet no-one says a word about Mutch. Malky signed for him £1.25m yet was sold for 4 times that.

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Fees as per: https://www.transfermarkt.com/cardif...ers/verein/603

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Sorry, but what the hell has all that got to do with my post that you’ve quoted?

What have I revised exactly?

I’m talking about Warnock not Malky???

[Rjk]

Don't you just love revisionists. Why let facts get in the way of opinion? I'm not knocking you JRH, just want to state some facts.

Let's look at the facts.

Malky Mackay Spending 2012-13 in Champ
- he inherited just 9 players (3 of those were g/kprs).
- he spent under £12m in 2 seasons and got promoted
2011-12: Spent ... £2.84m
Recouped ... £1.93m
Debt ... £0.91m debt
2012-13: Spent ... £13.08m
Recouped ... £1.54m
Debt ... £11.54m

That was a net debt on transfers of £12.45m after inheriting 6 outfield players, gaining promotion in two seasons. Hardly spending badly nor excessive.

City then won the Championship by EIGHT POINTS and a goal difference of PLUS 27.

In the 2013-14 PL season Malky spent £45.82m on transfer fees recouping £3.74m during the season; a debt of £42.08m.

Sunsequently ...
- Caulker was sold for £10.75m
- Medel was sold for £8m
- Mutch was sold for £7.57m
- Brayford was sold for £2.3m

I can't see how it was badly spent if we recouped virtually what we paid for the players.

... thereby recouping £28.62m and making a spend of £13.46m on players Malky signed for the PL campaign.


This makes a net outlay of £25.91m for his two and a half seasons. Not bad when inheriting just 6 outfield players.

Much is written about the Cornelius fiasco despite being injured for 5 of his 6 months at City. The signing of Madine has been far worse considering he's been fit yet hasn't look like scoring a goal for the first team or reserves. Yes, we lost £5m on Cornelius yet no-one says a word about Mutch. Malky signed for him £1.25m yet was sold for 4 times that.

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Fees as per: https://www.transfermarkt.com/cardif...ers/verein/603

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I think under malky we had a very high wages to turnover ratio, so we were very much gambling at the time