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[David Vincent]

I've watched that and didn't see any of the things you've mentioned.
This incident is covered in the article I posted.

I know the incident is covered in your link. That was the point of my post. Your link is spreading fake news by saying that Muslims did not cause the fire. This is what it says in your link : "The far-right conspiracy site Breitbart falsely claimed that Muslim migrants had set alight Germany’s oldest church".

Can you see excitable men firing rockets? These men are almost certainly Muslim migrants. Stop the video at 0:30 and let me know if you can see a man who looks like a Muslim migrant aiming a rocket. In the same frame you will see a blue cafe sign in the background. That cafe is in the Platz von Leeds. We can see from google street view that the Muslim migrants must be looking directly at St. Reinold's Church. The man aiming a rocket at 0:30 must be pointing his rocket at St Reinold's Church. Building work on the church was set alight. Did you notice the fire engines in the video? To say that the church didn't catch fire but only the netting on the scaffold is clutching at straws. That fire could just as likely set the whole church on fire as lighting a load of firelighters under the altar.

It is obvious that these Muslim migrants firing rockets started the fire. Breitbart was not spreading fake news. The people denying the above are spreading fake news.

[Rjk]

I know the incident is covered in your link. That was the point of my post. Your link is spreading fake news by saying that Muslims did not cause the fire. This is what it says in your link : "The far-right conspiracy site Breitbart falsely claimed that Muslim migrants had set alight Germany’s oldest church".

Can you see excitable men firing rockets? These men are almost certainly Muslim migrants. Stop the video at 0:30 and let me know if you can see a man who looks like a Muslim migrant aiming a rocket. In the same frame you will see a blue cafe sign in the background. That cafe is in the Platz von Leeds. We can see from google street view that the Muslim migrants must be looking directly at St. Reinold's Church. The man aiming a rocket at 0:30 must be pointing his rocket at St Reinold's Church. Building work on the church was set alight. Did you notice the fire engines in the video? To say that the church didn't catch fire but only the netting on the scaffold is clutching at straws. That fire could just as likely set the whole church on fire as lighting a load of firelighters under the altar.

It is obvious that these Muslim migrants firing rockets started the fire. Breitbart was not spreading fake news. The people denying the above are spreading fake news.

Funny how you can tell the nationality of an entire crowd in a grainy YouTube video, whereas the police who were there have a different view.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.d692c3a7cc7e

These were a general crowd of revellers letting off fireworks, amongst whom were a smaller group of immigrants celebrating a cease fire.

If a thousand strong mob of angry Muslims were hell bent on destroying the city don't you think there would have been more damage than a small accidental fire that was easily put out?

[David Vincent]

Funny how you can tell the nationality of an entire crowd in a grainy YouTube video, whereas the police who were there have a different view.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.d692c3a7cc7e

These were a general crowd of revellers letting off fireworks, amongst whom were a smaller group of immigrants celebrating a cease fire.

If a thousand strong mob of angry Muslims were hell bent on destroying the city don't you think there would have been more damage than a small accidental fire that was easily put out?

Everyone in that crowd looks Middle Eastern. If you can't tell that all these people look Middle Eastern then you are either blind or very stupid.

I never said they were trying to destroy the city. All I wanted to do was refute your claim that Muslims did not set fire to the church. Muslims set fire to the church. They fired rockets at the church and they started a fire. That is a fact. You don't need to go the Washington Post for the truth - it's mainly fake news in there - just use your own eyes.

[Rjk]

Everyone in that crowd looks Middle Eastern. If you can't tell that all these people look Middle Eastern then you are either blind or very stupid.

I never said they were trying to destroy the city. All I wanted to do was refute your claim that Muslims did not set fire to the church. Muslims set fire to the church. They fired rockets at the church and they started a fire. That is a fact. You don't need to go the Washington Post for the truth - it's mainly fake news in there - just use your own eyes.

I can see several people in that video who don't really look that middle eastern,and apparently the police agree.

I think you're seeing what you want to see.

[David Vincent]

I can see several people in that video who don't really look that middle eastern,and apparently the police agree.

I think you're seeing what you want to see.

If that is just a group of Germans out enjoying themselves then why have they left all the woman at home? There are no women in that video as far as I can see. They are Muslim men. Why are the police in riot gear? If you think you will ever get the truth from a senior policeman or a police spokesperson then you are very naive. These are political people. You would be better off asking an ordinary policeman what happened. But they could only give you a private response. If they went public they would be sacked or worse.

[LordKenwyne]

It is a fact a lot of asian men see women as a guarantee in life.

Many treat them well but a lot, a lot, do not.

Women are second class citizens in many asian countries and aren't allowed to show their face in many.

If we import people from these countries some will not be able to handle the freedom that women enjoy here.

[Dr Lecter]

It is a fact a lot of asian men see women as a guarantee in life.

Many treat them well but a lot, a lot, do not.

Women are second class citizens in many asian countries and aren't allowed to show their face in many.

If we import people from these countries some will not be able to handle the freedom that women enjoy here.

Looking at the state of some of those women makes me grateful for their outdated face covering religious bullshit.