Reply With QuoteThat doesn't invalidate my argument at all.Originally Posted by J R Hartley
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Get over it
That doesn't invalidate my argument at all.
I'm not dense enough to be on Instagram.
Id say that's a wise decision for you :)
Are you sure?
Blimey, I'd wager that the fun never stops at Chez Kris.
The stupidity never ends with you three.
I said he was ill advised. I agree that phrase is open to interpretation, but he was ill-advised to do it.
Did someone actually say "it won't be a problem?" Obviously I don't know, I wasn't there. But I think it's fair to say that either someone DID say that or at least didn't tell him it would be.
I think you, and the gunman, are taking my original post literally, picking up on one small extract out of context to discredit my opinion and glossing over the meaning behind it.
The sense never even begins with you Mr Moans.
I said he was ill advised. I agree that phrase is open to interpretation, but he was ill-advised to do it.
Did someone actually say "it won't be a problem?" Obviously I don't know, I wasn't there. But I think it's fair to say that either someone DID say that or at least didn't tell him it would be.
I think you, and the gunman, are taking my original post literally, picking up on one small extract out of context to discredit my opinion and glossing over the meaning behind it.
Quite how you claim my "didn't it go along the lines of...?" is "stated almost factually" is clutching at straws a bit surely?
Finally, at no point have I told you to "get over it" I thought I was very clear that I understood why people can't, I really do but speaking as someone who is the wrong side of 50, trust me, life is far too precious to be lived in the past.
You can choose to dwell on the past, think of city with anger, sadness or ambivalence if you wish, that is absolutely your choice how you live your life. I just think it's a little sad, that's all.
Apologies if I have, you've now corrected it and I agree that no-one told Tan it would be a problem. Of course, Tan DID know there was a problem because he reversed his decision, with a letter that painted a grim future for the club (one without Nicky Maynard and Kim Bo Kyung) and as soon as that letter was published a number of fans immediately spoke for all of us by apologising profusely to Tan. So, going back to the OP and the inflammatory Echo article that portrays more ignorance than actual newsworthiness, the fans effectively forgave Tan when he initially reversed his decision and threatened to take his ball home.
Tan has his apologists, he always will while there's a fat wallet in his pocket that may hold the key to Premier League football.
Finally you did say
"but you must surely get to the point of forgetting about it and going back to enjoying your football or you REALLY forget about it and go and do something that does make you happy. If posting the same old arguments about Tan is what makes people happy then surely they need to reevaluate their life choices."
That is an elaborate way of saying "get over it".
Likewise, I think it's sad that someone who stuck two fingers up to the club's fine history and tradition still gets allowances from people purely because he could decide to fund a promotion push at some case. Each to their own and all that.
You are adding nothing to the thread other than playground insults, so I'm using the ignore user button. Tara love.
SOME fans apologised I agree, but mostly due to the let's be honest here, borderline racist comments.
I also believe that those of us who kept going to games did more to change his mind than any boycott. Evidence? His attitude to the boycott era was pretty much "I'll find new fans" We all wore blue (after the people who just wanted to see us in the prem buggered off) Every week on 19.27 we chanted we'll always be blue until finally we/dalman/choo/ mrs tan convinced him to change.
We needed him then, to stave off HMRC and possibly the end of the football club, not for promotion.
When did I forgive him? The day I saw city run out back in their rightful colours.
You don't find using his mum was pathetic or weird? Perhaps I have more respect for my mother than he does his, so maybe I struggle to understand his methodology.
He changed his mind after the crowds started plummeting and he needed to win them back. Wasn't there a cup game against Colchester that was attended by fewer than 5,000 (a good crowd in my day)? Didn't he change his mind shortly after this televised game?
A lot of fans panicked when the carrot of £100m investment (aka a loan) was removed. It was almost pitiful to watch.
Fans were standing at 19:27 in the Championship season - I was one, and was yanked down by a red scarf wearing bloke who told me "we play in fvcking red now". The protest grew when results got bad, just as Tan's standing has improved as the club win 5 from 5. Who'd a thunk it?
:rolleyes:
I contributed - succinctly - much earlier in the thread.
if you want to stick your fingers in your ears and just keep shouting about how much you still hate Tan, that's up to you.
Do you honestly believe that? I think he knew very well that it would be unpopular, but felt his investment entitled him to do what he wanted with the club. There was even an acknowledgment in the club's rebrand statement, so it had clearly been considered.
"We are only too aware that the change of colour is a radical and some would say revolutionary move which will be met with unease and apprehension by a number of supporters, along with being seen as controversial by many."
I'm not suggesting we shouldn't move on now he has reversed it, but let's be real about what actually happened.
Groundhog Day zzzzz
Terence you're getting roped in.
No he isn't. We're having a discussion that doesn't involve petty insults despite our obvious lack of agreement. There's not much more to say on the matter though, and the Echo have got their talking point from yet another click-bait story that has roped us all in.
You're just repeating things you have said hundreds, possibly thousands of times.
Utterly pointless
Using his mum was weird but the alternative was "you were right I was wrong" and that just isn't in Tan's DNA.
Yes there was that cup game, but what was the attendance against Portsmouth in the cup this season?
Sure, some fans panicked a bit because they thought the withdrawal of his investment would effectively kill the club. Would it have done? Who knows, but who wanted to take that chance? And do you really think a couple of panicky letters in the Echo made any difference?
I had similar arguments with Reds in the ground. Their actions were shameful. Funny that since we got relegated I've not seen the protagonists since.
WHO THE FVCK IS TERENCE?
And, just like you do, I'll post what I want, to who I want, when I want on whatever subject I want.
What is the point to anything we post?
Then don't moan about people wasting their lives on the rebrand subject you hypocrite
To give our opinions and learn new things about people.
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