Why are attendances so poor?

[TH63]

To answer the OP, if anyone knows the answer, then let the club know, I'm sure they're just as baffled.

I found these stats from the following website http://european-football-statistics....nclub/carc.htm

I've just selected the years since my first game.

Couple of key points.

1. Average attendance during those 48 years is just 11,000
2. After the rebrand, average attendances actually increased
3. They only started going down again after we were relegated
4. Last season in NP, we averaged just under 14,000
5. Average attendance playing in Red - 24,000
6. Average attendance playing in Blue - 10,000
7. Despite all the issues about cost, shopping with the wife, rebrand, rugby, other things to do, attendances are still higher than they ever were during the last 40 years at NP.
8. Who cares anyway? Did I enjoy standing on the bob bank with my mates in 1981 with 5,000 others any less than I do now sitting in the grandstand with the same mates and an extra 10,000 to keep us company?

My point being, that despite all the rhetoric and despite some obvious individual opinions, in general terms, our fan base is more interested in league position than the colour of the shirt.

If we go up, we'll suddenly find an extra 10,000 minimum clamouring for tickets. Maybe for the "wrong" reasons I grant you, but who knows, they may come to see Man U, but over time, maybe they'll be coming to see city.

If that happens, I dare say some of us will be wishing we were back in NP with crowds of 5,000.


2017 16564
2016 16463
2015 21124
2014 27430
2013 22999
2012 22100
2011 23194
2010 20717
2009 18000
2008 13939
2007 15223
2006 11720
2005 12976
2004 15569
2003 13050
2002 12523
2001 7962
2000 6895
1999 7131
1998 3610
1997 3594
1996 3420
1995 4543
1994 6072
1993 8560
1992 6191
1991 2946
1990 3642
1989 4385
1988 4390
1987 2826
1986 3061
1985 4363
1984 7067
1983 7036
1982 5574
1981 6767
1980 9926
1979 9246
1978 8365
1977 12790
1976 11702
1975 9143
1974 10714
1973 11456
1972 15510
1971 21535
1970 21501

Average 11157

[Former Labour leader]

To answer the OP, if anyone knows the answer, then let the club know, I'm sure they're just as baffled.

I found these stats from the following website http://european-football-statistics....nclub/carc.htm

I've just selected the years since my first game.

Couple of key points.

1. Average attendance during those 48 years is just 11,000
2. After the rebrand, average attendances actually increased
3. They only started going down again after we were relegated
4. Last season in NP, we averaged just under 14,000
5. Average attendance playing in Red - 24,000
6. Average attendance playing in Blue - 10,000
7. Despite all the issues about cost, shopping with the wife, rebrand, rugby, other things to do, attendances are still higher than they ever were during the last 40 years at NP.
8. Who cares anyway? Did I enjoy standing on the bob bank with my mates in 1981 with 5,000 others any less than I do now sitting in the grandstand with the same mates and an extra 10,000 to keep us company?

My point being, that despite all the rhetoric and despite some obvious individual opinions, in general terms, our fan base is more interested in league position than the colour of the shirt.

If we go up, we'll suddenly find an extra 10,000 minimum clamouring for tickets. Maybe for the "wrong" reasons I grant you, but who knows, they may come to see Man U, but over time, maybe they'll be coming to see city.

If that happens, I dare say some of us will be wishing we were back in NP with crowds of 5,000.


2017 16564
2016 16463
2015 21124
2014 27430
2013 22999
2012 22100
2011 23194
2010 20717
2009 18000
2008 13939
2007 15223
2006 11720
2005 12976
2004 15569
2003 13050
2002 12523
2001 7962
2000 6895
1999 7131
1998 3610
1997 3594
1996 3420
1995 4543
1994 6072
1993 8560
1992 6191
1991 2946
1990 3642
1989 4385
1988 4390
1987 2826
1986 3061
1985 4363
1984 7067
1983 7036
1982 5574
1981 6767
1980 9926
1979 9246
1978 8365
1977 12790
1976 11702
1975 9143
1974 10714
1973 11456
1972 15510
1971 21535
1970 21501

Average 11157

Thanks for taking so much trouble in getting those figures together. I think the figures prove that we are poorly supported unless we are really very successful. Our fan base is small for the size of the area and fickle. I am still not sure as to why. You can throw in all sorts is reasons, perhaps the rebrand did skim a few hundred off our formerly die hardship, but I doubt much more. I wonder if it is because we are fed so much egg down this way that people are almost scared to admit they like football and consequently only come for big games. I don't know but perhaps it is a cultural thing, like rugger would never take off big time in Newcastle.

[J R Hartley]

To answer the OP, if anyone knows the answer, then let the club know, I'm sure they're just as baffled.

I found these stats from the following website http://european-football-statistics....nclub/carc.htm

I've just selected the years since my first game.

Couple of key points.

1. Average attendance during those 48 years is just 11,000
2. After the rebrand, average attendances actually increased
3. They only started going down again after we were relegated
4. Last season in NP, we averaged just under 14,000
5. Average attendance playing in Red - 24,000
6. Average attendance playing in Blue - 10,000
7. Despite all the issues about cost, shopping with the wife, rebrand, rugby, other things to do, attendances are still higher than they ever were during the last 40 years at NP.
8. Who cares anyway? Did I enjoy standing on the bob bank with my mates in 1981 with 5,000 others any less than I do now sitting in the grandstand with the same mates and an extra 10,000 to keep us company?

My point being, that despite all the rhetoric and despite some obvious individual opinions, in general terms, our fan base is more interested in league position than the colour of the shirt.

If we go up, we'll suddenly find an extra 10,000 minimum clamouring for tickets. Maybe for the "wrong" reasons I grant you, but who knows, they may come to see Man U, but over time, maybe they'll be coming to see city.

If that happens, I dare say some of us will be wishing we were back in NP with crowds of 5,000.


2017 16564
2016 16463
2015 21124
2014 27430
2013 22999
2012 22100
2011 23194
2010 20717
2009 18000
2008 13939
2007 15223
2006 11720
2005 12976
2004 15569
2003 13050
2002 12523
2001 7962
2000 6895
1999 7131
1998 3610
1997 3594
1996 3420
1995 4543
1994 6072
1993 8560
1992 6191
1991 2946
1990 3642
1989 4385
1988 4390
1987 2826
1986 3061
1985 4363
1984 7067
1983 7036
1982 5574
1981 6767
1980 9926
1979 9246
1978 8365
1977 12790
1976 11702
1975 9143
1974 10714
1973 11456
1972 15510
1971 21535
1970 21501

Average 11157

Good post