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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Jeez, just a few days after predictions by some that this was being set as a "nothingburger" (whatever that is) we get the jaw dropping expose of a failure to fully deregister the account of an accused fraudster as he was linked to a shared e-mail account. Pulitzer can't be far away for Sean and Luke on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Jeez, just a few days after predictions by some that this was being set as a "nothingburger" (whatever that is) we get the jaw dropping expose of a failure to fully deregister the account of an accused fraudster as he was linked to a shared e-mail account. Pulitzer can't be far away for Sean and Luke on this one.
    Great analysis mate, thanks for pointing out that this case in nothing more than a minor misdemeanor. Have you ever thought about going into law? You seem to have the right apptitude for it.

    BTW the person who said it was a nothingburger is the assistant attorney general in charge of the case, and the brother of the woman who hired this IT guy.

    PS how do you deregister a hidden email account?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Great analysis mate, thanks for pointing out that this case in nothing more than a minor misdemeanor. Have you ever thought about going into law? You seem to have the right apptitude for it.

    BTW the person who said it was a nothingburger is the assistant attorney general in charge of the case, and the brother of the woman who hired this IT guy.

    PS how do you deregister a hidden email account?
    Apologies for the analysis. If I had known as you state that this has the potential to be 100 times bigger than Watergate and Iran/Contra put together I would probably reflected what Sean and Luke were spouting on about was actually smoking dynamite that could blow up the constitutional system of the US as we know it. I don't know why they are upset that the MSM have not cottoned onto this when they could share all the glory themselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Apologies for the analysis. If I had known as you state that this has the potential to be 100 times bigger than Watergate and Iran/Contra put together I would probably reflected what Sean and Luke were spouting on about was actually smoking dynamite that could blow up the constitutional system of the US as we know it. I don't know why they are upset that the MSM have not cottoned onto this when they could share all the glory themselves!
    Who knows where it will lead, it may even be a nothingburger, but it should at least be investigated. Here is the latest from Luke, it sounds like it could have the makings of an incredible movie script


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Jeez, just a few days after predictions by some that this was being set as a "nothingburger" (whatever that is) we get the jaw dropping expose of a failure to fully deregister the account of an accused fraudster as he was linked to a shared e-mail account. Pulitzer can't be far away for Sean and Luke on this one.
    Rather than trivialising the matter, did you check to see who the other person sharing this secret email address was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Rather than trivialising the matter, did you check to see who the other person sharing this secret email address was?
    Once I got past 4 google pages of right wing conspirasist websites all salivating and amplifying the same thing I found this on one of them.

    The 123@mail.house.gov appears to be a typical test email account. Used for testing new applications or debugging. The email account is not linked to a user profile so Imran Awan will not be able to login using an RSA token, etc. into the house.gov network. This email account poses no danger, nor can Awan access emails sent to it (or send emails from it) after he was terminated.This story is a much ado over nothing.

    That coupled with the fact that Awan never had security clearance suggested much ado about nothing. If there was anything more "sensational" in this I have a feeling it would be brought to our attention to be honest.

    By the way, when this thread started your on the fence even handed wait and see great expectation of non-Trump related consipacy scandal were trafficking and the Seventh Floor of the State Department. Like someone recently said, hoping that something is true won't make it true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Once I got past 4 google pages of right wing conspirasist websites all salivating and amplifying the same thing I found this on one of them.

    The 123@mail.house.gov appears to be a typical test email account. Used for testing new applications or debugging. The email account is not linked to a user profile so Imran Awan will not be able to login using an RSA token, etc. into the house.gov network. This email account poses no danger, nor can Awan access emails sent to it (or send emails from it) after he was terminated.This story is a much ado over nothing.

    That coupled with the fact that Awan never had security clearance suggested much ado about nothing. If there was anything more "sensational" in this I have a feeling it would be brought to our attention to be honest.

    By the way, when this thread started your on the fence even handed wait and see great expectation of non-Trump related consipacy scandal were trafficking and the Seventh Floor of the State Department. Like someone recently said, hoping that something is true won't make it true.
    Nothing I have said has been proved wrong so far. The 7th Floor of the State Department had a massive clear out of senior staff, as reported by the press. Trafficking is a huge problem as stated by numerous charities and government agencies. None of these situations have been resolved, they are still very much in play, as are the email problems effecting nearly every senior Democrat. There is a new guy in charge of the FBI, so we are going to find if there has been any wrongdoing when all the investigations are complete. There is no more Comey to stack the deck and let everybody off this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Nothing I have said has been proved wrong so far. The 7th Floor of the State Department had a massive clear out of senior staff, as reported by the press. Trafficking is a huge problem as stated by numerous charities and government agencies. None of these situations have been resolved, they are still very much in play, as are the email problems effecting nearly every senior Democrat. There is a new guy in charge of the FBI, so we are going to find if there has been any wrongdoing when all the investigations are complete. There is no more Comey to stack the deck and let everybody off this time.
    A massive clear out of senior staff is not proving to be that unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    A massive clear out of senior staff is not proving to be that unusual.
    Keep the comments coming

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    A massive clear out of senior staff is not proving to be that unusual.
    Last year they were everybody's favourite "Deep State" then Tillerson sacked them all but obviously deep state was much deeper than "Deep State" because deep state continues its dirty work pretty much untroubled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    The 123@mail.house.gov appears to be a typical test email account
    So would you be using this typical test email account as a personal business email address, and then give it out to random people who are renting a house from you?

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...3049-Scan.html

    Much ado over nothing indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So would you be using this typical test email account as a personal business email address, and then give it out to random people who are renting a house from you?

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...3049-Scan.html

    Much ado over nothing indeed.
    Just so I understand what this is.

    An accused fraudster, being separately pursued by someone for a debt gave that person the highly sensitive, back door into systems e-mail address that he may or may not be using for his clandestine actions (which may or may not include hacking DNC servers neither e-mail account has security clearance for) rather than an e-mail address that would make him more easily traceable.

    When do we leap to the 100 times bigger than Watergate and Iran Contra bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Just so I understand what this is.

    An accused fraudster, being separately pursued by someone for a debt gave that person the highly sensitive, back door into systems e-mail address that he may or may not be using for his clandestine actions (which may or may not include hacking DNC servers neither e-mail account has security clearance for) rather than an e-mail address that would make him more easily traceable.

    When do we leap to the 100 times bigger than Watergate and Iran Contra bit?
    It's all a bit odd isn't it. He's also claiming he is so broke that he's been forced to drive for Uber to make money, yet he turns up in court with 3 top Clinton megabucks lawyers.

    You may have made up your mind, but there are certainly enough descrepencies for me to keep my mind open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Pulitzer can't be far away for Sean and Luke on this one.
    Luke's back with a dramatic plot twist ..

    "Exclusive: Did Imran Want Capitol Police To Find Wasserman Schultz’s Laptop?"

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/06/ex...hultzs-laptop/


    And so is Mrs Awan ..

    "Democratic IT staffer who fled the country strikes deal to return, face charges"

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/de...rticle/2633528

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Luke's back with a dramatic plot twist ..

    "Exclusive: Did Imran Want Capitol Police To Find Wasserman Schultz’s Laptop?"

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/06/ex...hultzs-laptop/


    And so is Mrs Awan ..

    "Democratic IT staffer who fled the country strikes deal to return, face charges"

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/de...rticle/2633528
    Exclusive: Police Report Indicates Wasserman Schultz IT Aide Planted Computer For Investigators To Find

    It seems the original headline that you copied was not dramatic enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Exclusive: Police Report Indicates Wasserman Schultz IT Aide Planted Computer For Investigators To Find

    It seems the original headline that you copied was not dramatic enough!
    They have changed the headline, it was previously as above when the report first appeared. It's the sort of thing you would expect to see in a Hollywood movie script, not in the US congress. I can't understand why the MSM aren't all over this, they were so eager to run with the Trump Russian dossier story which was even more unbelievable. Strange days indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They have changed the headline, it was previously as above when the report first appeared. It's the sort of thing you would expect to see in a Hollywood movie script, not in the US congress. I can't understand why the MSM aren't all over this, they were so eager to run with the Trump Russian dossier story which was even more unbelievable. Strange days indeed.
    Except that there is nothing new here apart from headline. The original one obviously was not sensationalist enough for even a Hollywood B movie that the more sensible studios would not touch. It would appear that the more the engine runs out of steam the more the remaining script writers think up ever more fantastical plots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Except that there is nothing new here apart from headline. The original one obviously was not sensationalist enough for even a Hollywood B movie that the more sensible studios would not touch. It would appear that the more the engine runs out of steam the more the remaining script writers think up ever more fantastical plots.
    Well, the plot unfolds even further next Thursday. Hopefully we will get a better understand of what is real or not, but the Awan/Wasserman Schultz case is very strange, it has all the ingredients of being a blockbuster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Except that there is nothing new here apart from headline. The original one obviously was not sensationalist enough for even a Hollywood B movie that the more sensible studios would not touch. It would appear that the more the engine runs out of steam the more the remaining script writers think up ever more fantastical plots.
    Maybe no longer a B movie script if Rep Trent Franks is to be believed (House of Representatives Armed Services and Judiciary Committee Member).


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Exclusive: Police Report Indicates Wasserman Schultz IT Aide Planted Computer For Investigators To Find

    It seems the original headline that you copied was not dramatic enough!
    Anyway, it all seems a little bit too perfect doesn't it? The laptop was found along with enough evidence to explain the who, what, when, where, why, and how of it all. I'm in two minds about what really happened here, there are clearly other forces at play.

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