Blake - Talking Sense

[Penarth Blues]

But the likelihood is that a new manager will want to change Warnock's philosophy, so that will happen when Warnock finally leaves.

The same thing that happens when every manager leaves. Football always moves on and its interest is in its uncertainty.

At present Pep's football model is idolised but I think it is only sustainable when you have some of the best footballers and athletes in the world to implement it. Those same players would make Warnock's approach look magical too.

We play no differently to the Leicester team that won the title - we just don't have skilful enough players to achieve in the same way they did.

I have to disagree with posts on here that thinks it is the style we play that prevents us having success. I am hoping like everyone else that we bring in some decent midfielders who can actually pass a ball properly. I think our same overall style would then bring much better football as we could hold the ball much better from the middle of the park upwards.

Over time we can potentially address bringing the ball out from defence too as an option but for now I'd settle for a better midfield and the defence and attack that we already have. I think our attackers would acquire a new lease of life from this.

[Tuerto]

The same thing that happens when every manager leaves. Football always moves on and its interest is in its uncertainty.

At present Pep's football model is idolised but I think it is only sustainable when you have some of the best footballers and athletes in the world to implement it. Those same players would make Warnock's approach look magical too.

We play no differently to the Leicester team that won the title - we just don't have skilful enough players to achieve in the same way they did.

I have to disagree with posts on here that thinks it is the style we play that prevents us having success. I am hoping like everyone else that we bring in some decent midfielders who can actually pass a ball properly. I think our same overall style would then bring much better football as we could hold the ball much better from the middle of the park upwards.

Over time we can potentially address bringing the ball out from defence too as an option but for now I'd settle for a better midfield and the defence and attack that we already have. I think our attackers would acquire a new lease of life from this.

We do not play like the Leicester side hat won the title, that's a statement and a half. How many times did Leicester pump the ball to nobody, how many times were their midfield devoid of options and ideas? How many positions was Vardy in without any support whatsoever, the closest team mate 20 yards away. We did not play like Leicester.

[Penarth Blues]

We do not play like the Leicester side hat won the title, that's a statement and a half. How many times did Leicester pump the ball to nobody, how many times were their midfield devoid of options and ideas? How many positions was Vardy in without any support whatsoever, the closest team mate 20 yards away. We did not play like Leicester.

I disagree. The style they played is basically a rugged defence with a rapid counter-attack. The reason they didn't pump the ball to nobody is because they had players capable of making the passes. We don't.

[Tuerto]

I disagree. The style they played is basically a rugged defence with a rapid counter-attack. The reason they didn't pump the ball to nobody is because they had players capable of making the passes. We don't.

Ok, so we couldn't make the passes, couldn't score as many goals as them or defend like them, attack like them, re-group like them, tackle like them etc, but we played like them. I'll give it to you in the loosest sense of the word, i sort of get where you're coming from

[CCFCC3PO]

I disagree. The style they played is basically a rugged defence with a rapid counter-attack. The reason they didn't pump the ball to nobody is because they had players capable of making the passes. We don't.

Oh yeah, you're right.

Leicester play with 11 players, and so do Cardiff. Both have a goalie, and both attempt to score goals. Yes, these teams are exactly alike.

[Baloo]

We do not play like the Leicester side hat won the title, that's a statement and a half. How many times did Leicester pump the ball to nobody, how many times were their midfield devoid of options and ideas? How many positions was Vardy in without any support whatsoever, the closest team mate 20 yards away. We did not play like Leicester.

I think it's fair to assume that a team that won the league didn't play like another which was relegated.

I think the reference is probably because Leicester had the 3rd-lowest possession % and number of short passes stats in the PL that season. They also had the 2nd lowest pass success rate %. So highlighting perhaps that it's not exclusively a possession/passing game that gets results in the PL. They were obviously far better though at what they were doing though than City and had better players.

[Tuerto]

I think it's fair to assume that a team that won the league didn't play like another which was relegated.

I think the reference is probably because Leicester had the 3rd-lowest possession % and number of short passes stats in the PL that season. They also had the 2nd lowest pass success rate %. So highlighting perhaps that it's not exclusively a possession/passing game that gets results in the PL. They were obviously far better though at what they were doing though than City and had better players.

Yeah, i get it. Leicester got the ball forward quickly and supported Vardy with midfielders (very quickly) we actually didn't do that bit. Leicester also played a counter attacking game that really suited their players. I suppose the question is; could we emulate Leicester and their style back then (it has changed twice since then) and achieve relative success? I doubt it, the way Leicester played was very unique. They also had two players in Mahrez and Vardy who were/are Quality. I suppose we could emulate their style, it's probably the closest we'll get under Warnock to an actual style of play.

[jamieccfc]

The same thing that happens when every manager leaves. Football always moves on and its interest is in its uncertainty.

At present Pep's football model is idolised but I think it is only sustainable when you have some of the best footballers and athletes in the world to implement it. Those same players would make Warnock's approach look magical too.

We play no differently to the Leicester team that won the title - we just don't have skilful enough players to achieve in the same way they did.

I have to disagree with posts on here that thinks it is the style we play that prevents us having success. I am hoping like everyone else that we bring in some decent midfielders who can actually pass a ball properly. I think our same overall style would then bring much better football as we could hold the ball much better from the middle of the park upwards.

Over time we can potentially address bringing the ball out from defence too as an option but for now I'd settle for a better midfield and the defence and attack that we already have. I think our attackers would acquire a new lease of life from this.

WOW just WOW I’m literally lost for words just when you think you’ve seen it all on here

[CCFCC3PO]

The same thing that happens when every manager leaves. Football always moves on and its interest is in its uncertainty.

At present Pep's football model is idolised but I think it is only sustainable when you have some of the best footballers and athletes in the world to implement it. Those same players would make Warnock's approach look magical too.

We play no differently to the Leicester team that won the title - we just don't have skilful enough players to achieve in the same way they did.

I have to disagree with posts on here that thinks it is the style we play that prevents us having success. I am hoping like everyone else that we bring in some decent midfielders who can actually pass a ball properly. I think our same overall style would then bring much better football as we could hold the ball much better from the middle of the park upwards.

Over time we can potentially address bringing the ball out from defence too as an option but for now I'd settle for a better midfield and the defence and attack that we already have. I think our attackers would acquire a new lease of life from this.

Are you serious? Cardiff play the same as the PL champions from 3 years ago? And, do you really think Warnock managing Man City would make them as good as Guardiola's Man City? There's a reason Warnock has never managed at that level, and it's not prejudice.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I am hoping like everyone else that we bring in some decent midfielders who can actually pass a ball properly. I think our same overall style would then bring much better football as we could hold the ball much better from the middle of the park upwards.

This. 100%.