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  1. #1

    Re: Stay in the EU petition

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    The EU can try and convince and point the UK into a certain direction but they have no control over the UK leaving as they cant stop the UK from leaving and the UK people have voted to leave, the political classes both here and in Europe don't like it and are trying various tactics but as things stand we are still leaving.
    It's so easy to attack what people perceive as the elite members of society but some of us are just workers ants who do not influence the economy and I, for one, do put a bit of store in statements made from bodies such as the CBI, which states:

    "The impacts of a no deal are vast and will impact every region and nation of the UK. From the South West of England, to the North East of Scotland, businesses are telling us a no deal would be a disaster for the UK economy, for businesses and for individual livelihoods."

    Happy to read any other statements for and against, of course (and there will be statements against). We need more than knee-jerk prejudices, sweeping statements and anecdotes to inform us if we are open-minded people. The economy cannot be sustained by slogans.

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    Re: Stay in the EU petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It's so easy to attack what people perceive as the elite members of society but some of us are just workers ants who do not influence the economy and I, for one, do put a bit of store in statements made from bodies such as the CBI, which states:

    "The impacts of a no deal are vast and will impact every region and nation of the UK. From the South West of England, to the North East of Scotland, businesses are telling us a no deal would be a disaster for the UK economy, for businesses and for individual livelihoods."

    Happy to read any other statements for and against, of course (and there will be statements against). We need more than knee-jerk prejudices, sweeping statements and anecdotes to inform us if we are open-minded people. The economy cannot be sustained by slogans.
    The Lancet has published a paper using the available legal and political texts on four Brexit scenarios to access their likely impact on our health service. "All forms of Brexit involve negative consequences for the UK's leadership and governance of health, in both Europe and globally, with questions about the ability of parliament and other stakeholders to scrutinise and oversee government actions."

    'However, by far the worst option would be a No-Deal Brexit. The Withdrawal Agreement is likely to have many adverse consequences but will also allow much to remain as it is until December, 2020. The impact of the backstop is likely to be uneven, effectively enabling continuity in some areas (in particular for medical products, vaccines, and technology), but producing a negative impact in most other areas." The B.M.A. has also warned that a no-deal would be potentially catastrophic.

    The cost of Brexit has already hit the U.K. economy to the tune of £40 billion pounds (and rising). The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development has warned that leaving with no deal would plunge the economy into recession.

    But we've had enough of experts, haven't we? Why should we listen to specialists in the field of health care and economics? So many people on social media give such cogent, coherent and well-informed reasons to crash out. Where is the evidence to convince us that leaving would be an all singing all dancing wonderful experience.

  3. #3

    Re: Stay in the EU petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    The Lancet has published a paper using the available legal and political texts on four Brexit scenarios to access their likely impact on our health service. "All forms of Brexit involve negative consequences for the UK's leadership and governance of health, in both Europe and globally, with questions about the ability of parliament and other stakeholders to scrutinise and oversee government actions."

    'However, by far the worst option would be a No-Deal Brexit. The Withdrawal Agreement is likely to have many adverse consequences but will also allow much to remain as it is until December, 2020. The impact of the backstop is likely to be uneven, effectively enabling continuity in some areas (in particular for medical products, vaccines, and technology), but producing a negative impact in most other areas." The B.M.A. has also warned that a no-deal would be potentially catastrophic.

    The cost of Brexit has already hit the U.K. economy to the tune of £40 billion pounds (and rising). The Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development has warned that leaving with no deal would plunge the economy into recession.

    But we've had enough of experts, haven't we? Why should we listen to specialists in the field of health care and economics? So many people on social media give such cogent, coherent and well-informed reasons to crash out. Where is the evidence to convince us that leaving would be an all singing all dancing wonderful experience.

    My brother has already been struggling to get enough epilepsy medicine for several months now

  4. #4

    Re: Stay in the EU petition

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It's so easy to attack what people perceive as the elite members of society but some of us are just workers ants who do not influence the economy and I, for one, do put a bit of store in statements made from bodies such as the CBI, which states:

    "The impacts of a no deal are vast and will impact every region and nation of the UK. From the South West of England, to the North East of Scotland, businesses are telling us a no deal would be a disaster for the UK economy, for businesses and for individual livelihoods."

    Happy to read any other statements for and against, of course (and there will be statements against). We need more than knee-jerk prejudices, sweeping statements and anecdotes to inform us if we are open-minded people. The economy cannot be sustained by slogans.
    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out the implications for the UK state if no deal happens.

  5. #5

    Re: Stay in the EU petition

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out the implications for the UK state if no deal happens.
    Aha, the old rocket scientist maxim. Clears it all up then.

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