"Not a clue about how to improve defence" - some help...

[Croesy Blue]

It just isnt getting any better one month on is it?
Bamba was an awful again today costing us a goal again and once again I read Manga was generally good but was at fault for yet another goal. Morrison is just slow and struggling at this level.
We cannot hope to compete if we continue to play so badly at the back. I would try and get Cahill in in January.

Against the second best team in the league though, What do people expect ?

[Tuerto]

Against the second best team in the league though, What do people expect ?

Granted, although we are making some basic errors that make it easier for them. Not saying that it would make the difference as Liverpool have so much quality. I bet Morrison and co aren't best pleased, even though it was against one of the best teams in Europe. I was more disappointed with the errors against Burnley as I felt that neither of them were forced, unlike today.

[G rangetown Blue]

It's the best defence we've ever had. We just happen to be playing some of the best club sides in the World in this league.
It's really that simple.

[J R Hartley]

It's the best defence we've ever had. We just happen to be playing some of the best club sides in the World in this league.
It's really that simple.

Burnley and Fulham are not some of the best clubs in the world and we let some really sloppy goals in against them.

Also, some of the goals weve been giving away against the top 6 sides have been avoidable. Their first two yesterday for starters. The third goal you just got to hold your hands up it was terrific play, and the 4th they caught us on the break.

We got to cut out the silly mistakes because there is not enough goals in the team to score 2 or 3 to get a win.

[Penarth Blues]

Burnley and Fulham are not some of the best clubs in the world and we let some really sloppy goals in against them.

Also, some of the goals weve been giving away against the top 6 sides have been avoidable. Their first two yesterday for starters. The third goal you just got to hold your hands up it was terrific play, and the 4th they caught us on the break.

We got to cut out the silly mistakes because there is not enough goals in the team to score 2 or 3 to get a win.

I think that's a reasonable summary of what's happened so far. The defence needs to go back to doing the basics well and not overthinking things. At this level an organised defence is essential for achieving anything.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Burnley and Fulham are not some of the best clubs in the world and we let some really sloppy goals in against them.

Also, some of the goals weve been giving away against the top 6 sides have been avoidable. Their first two yesterday for starters. The third goal you just got to hold your hands up it was terrific play, and the 4th they caught us on the break.

We got to cut out the silly mistakes because there is not enough goals in the team to score 2 or 3 to get a win.

Last season we conceded 2 or more goals in a league game on only 8 occasions and had the joint best defensive record in the division. Half of those occasions were in a dreadful 6 game spell in December/January, meaning that over the remaining 40 games (split 19 before that run/21 after that run), we conceded 2 or more on only 4 occasions.

This season we've conceded 2 or more in 7 of our 10 league games.

Last season we won 4 points from our 8 games when conceding 2 or more. One was a last-gasp leveller at Reading while we were battering Birmingham City out of sight until they pulled 2 goals back.

I agree totally about the sloppy nature of some of our goals. This wasn't anywhere near as evident last season. Maybe it's the increased pressure of playing in the top division - if you know a mistake is going to be punished far more often, you are under more pressure not to make a mistake, which can increase the likelihood of a mistake. There's also the issue of conceding too much possession, though we've been better with the ball ourselves this season.

I also think it's because our defence is better suited to the rough and tumble of the Championship, where pace and trickery are in much shorter supply. They've earned the right to be our bedrock in the Premier League, but if mistakes can't be stopped, then we need Vinny to open his cheque book.

[chepstow]

It's the best defence we've ever had. We just happen to be playing some of the best club sides in the World in this league.
It's really that simple.

Er ..... without wanting to get into a protracted disagreement if that is the best defence we have ever had we are in terrible trouble. It is just not good enough for the keague we are in. Some of the goals we have been conceding are laughable