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  1. #1

    Re: BBC Remain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    The lack of response says more than words ever could.
    It's the same old tired argument, try thinking for yourself and look at the bigger picture, you may find it liberating.

  2. #2

    Re: BBC Remain

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's the same old tired argument, try thinking for yourself you may find it liberating.
    We have apparently lost our sovereignty and can't come up with our laws. That's been said. What are they?

  3. #3

    Re: BBC Remain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    We have apparently lost our sovereignty and can't come up with our laws. That's been said. What are they?
    They've got you inside an invisible box, and you don't even realise it

  4. #4

    Re: BBC Remain

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They've got you inside an invisible box, and you don't even realise it
    You can't even tell me what they're doing to us? If you can come up with reasoned, well thought out points with facts, then you might change my mind. The EU has many, many faults. I personally think the benefits far outweigh these. I want to travel into Europe without restrictions, I want to work there without restrictions and I want our businesses and financial to trade without restrictions.

    You had said, you're in an invisible box and you don't even realise. So, I don't know what to believe.

  5. #5

    Re: BBC Remain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    You can't even tell me what they're doing to us? If you can come up with reasoned, well thought out points with facts, then you might change my mind. The EU has many, many faults. I personally think the benefits far outweigh these. I want to travel into Europe without restrictions, I want to work there without restrictions and I want our businesses and financial to trade without restrictions.

    You had said, you're in an invisible box and you don't even realise. So, I don't know what to believe.
    There are certainly many benefits, but then there is also the underlying ideology. I may be cynical, but I can't help thinking that the benefits are being used to sell the ideology. This will only become apparent when we reach the point of no return. If they had stopped at the customs union, I don't think the idea of Brexit would have even materialised. If you doubt my words, then I suggest you take a look at history.

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    Re: BBC Remain

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    There are certainly many benefits, but then there is also the underlying ideology. I may be cynical, but I can't help thinking that the benefits are being used to sell the ideology. This will only become apparent when we reach the point of no return. If they had stopped at the customs union, I don't think the idea of Brexit would have even materialised. If you doubt my words, then I suggest you take a look at history.
    By history, do you mean the longest ever period of peace in Europe? We have our own borders apart from EU citizens (which is a benefit), we make our own laws by and large and we're in a customs union.

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    Re: BBC Remain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    By history, do you mean the longest ever period of peace in Europe? We have our own borders apart from EU citizens (which is a benefit), we make our own laws by and large and we're in a customs union.
    It's another sociopolitical construct, and there are many case studies from the past going back thousands of years.

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    Re: BBC Remain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    By history, do you mean the longest ever period of peace in Europe? We have our own borders apart from EU citizens (which is a benefit), we make our own laws by and large and we're in a customs union.
    Seriously don't bother, it's not worth your time.

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