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That went down well with the establishment...
And on rugby fans:
“They will expect to get through [the station barriers] and get a train home. They will be heavily inebriated. On any other day of the week, they will be perfectly law-abiding family people who know how to behave.
“Today, they won’t listen. They won’t take advice or warnings. They will be a nightmare.
“I would like to film some of these people and, when they’re back in their three-piece suit on the Monday morning going off to work, play the tape back to them – because it’s a disgrace.
“Our problem is middle-aged men, in particular, who think that they can behave any way they like.
see the reaction of some of the egging fans blaming everyone else for their behavior bar them self's what a joke ****ing piss heads.
Why can't everyone just accept that there are both good and bad amongst both football supporters and rugby supporters and that supporting these two sports does not have to be mutually exclusive.
I think it comes from the fact that, and I'm big enough to admit it, football fans have a chip on their shoulder. We've been told we're hooligans, thugs, banned from playing in schools, and treated like aliens when we say we prefer football to rugby. After years of the establishment ramming rugby down our throat, it was nice that football was top dog last summer.
Frankly, rugby in Wales in an absolute mess. The regions haven't worked, they never get big crowds and a lot of fans don't know the players or who's next in line for Wales. For many, a Wales home game is an excuse to get pissed. Wales were on the 5m line in 2006, right in front of me, playing Australia, and the lads in front of me went to get a pint. The game ended as a draw, and when we scored I looked up to see there were hundreds of people going up and down with their beers.
Anyway, the game of rugby is great, I really enjoy it. Wales are a competitive nation (should be better) and there needs to be a drastic shake up of the game at home. The club sides will probably die out unless they get significant levels of support from the WRU as they can't compete with the crowds and spending of Ireland, England and France.
Ive said there a huge number of idiots that go to get hammered. Not that there is much wrong in planning on drinking alot
But they're generalising like:
"see the reaction of some of the egging fans blaming everyone else for their behavior bar them self's what a joke ****ing piss heads."
nearly everyone drinks yes but an extreme minority are the ones that are violent / anti social
This is a waste of time talk though, it happens all the time on here.
Cardiff reputation is set in stone around the UK as being complete scum. Because people generalise about a fan base based on a minority.
Oh that's a very valid point Nick. I think many of the negative comments about rugby supporters (at internationals anyway) is borne out of genuine frustration that their bad behaviour generally gets overlooked by the media, but if a city fan so much as looks at someone the wrong way it guarantees a headline.
Genuinely I have seen behaviour at rugby internationals that just wouldn't be tolerated anywhere near a football ground.
I freely admit that I hate the cowboy hats, the leeks, the daffodil hats, the barbour wearing drunks with their hipflasks breathing stale whisky over everyone, the ticket touts, the del boys selling their tat on queen street. I hate the fact that the team that finishes a game is unrecognisible from the team that started the game, the rule changes, the style of play these days, the corporate hospitality and the whole "look at me" event that it's become. THAT'S what I dislike about today's rugby. The rugby I used to like, was the rugby for working men, played by working men for whom a Saturday afternoon was a break from the mines and the factories.
Kudos to you for supporting your local club, but that's a world away from the "event" that we see at the prinicpality.
We're straying off the point of the OP here though (I take my share of the blame for that) which is the, imho, idiotic decision to weaken the national team by denying the best players a cap if they dare to ply their trade in Bath for example.