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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    So, Louise Ellman should be ignored because she's "defended Israel", ( I mean that's not anti Semitic is it?), and anyone who express opposition to the growing open anti semitism by socialists is a nut case !
    If they'd had message boards in pre war Germany, I expect these are just the sort of comments which would have been put on them .

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    Heisenberg
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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    So, Louise Ellman should be ignored because she's "defended Israel", ( I mean that's not anti Semitic is it?), and anyone who express opposition to the growing open anti semitism by socialists is a nut case !
    If they'd had message boards in pre war Germany, I expect these are just the sort of comments which would have been put on them .
    There you go again. Can you provide some examples of the "open anti semitism by socialists" from the Labour party, please? I'm gonna need some quotes on this as so far it's been hearsay. I'm not arrogant enough to think there's no anti-semites within the Labour party - just as there will be in the Conservative party, UKIP, Brexit party etc.

    Are you only concerned about anti-semitism or do you feel that racism and bigotry in all forms is wrong? The Prime Minister of the UK and leader of the Conservative party has made numerous anti-Islamic comments - does that mean we can expect the "physical persecution" of individual Muslims any day now - or is it more the case of the fact that you're so opposed to Socialism that you've convinced yourself of something that a "sane" and "objective" person wouldn't believe.

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    There you go again. Can you provide some examples of the "open anti semitism by socialists" from the Labour party, please? I'm gonna need some quotes on this as so far it's been hearsay. I'm not arrogant enough to think there's no anti-semites within the Labour party - just as there will be in the Conservative party, UKIP, Brexit party etc.

    Are you only concerned about anti-semitism or do you feel that racism and bigotry in all forms is wrong? The Prime Minister of the UK and leader of the Conservative party has made numerous anti-Islamic comments - does that mean we can expect the "physical persecution" of individual Muslims any day now - or is it more the case of the fact that you're so opposed to Socialism that you've convinced yourself of something that a "sane" and "objective" person wouldn't believe.

    I've got no loyalty to any political party so trying to compare BoJo's jokes about pillar boxes with the hollocaust is a bit wasted on me.
    Since you ask, I'm more concerned about anti semitism than most other forms of racism for the simple reason that it's the only one backed by a political party and the only one which can so easily ramp up to genocide, as it has before.

    Btw, it's ALL hearsay unless someone here personally witnessed it. I'm not gong to start listing examples because there's a whole investigation you can read, including the statements of victims and quotes from Mr Corbyn and others.

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    Heisenberg
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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    I've got no loyalty to any political party so trying to compare BoJo's jokes about pillar boxes with the hollocaust is a bit wasted on me.
    Since you ask, I'm more concerned about anti semitism than most other forms of racism for the simple reason that it's the only one backed by a political party and the only one which can so easily ramp up to genocide, as it has before.

    Btw, it's ALL hearsay unless someone here personally witnessed it. I'm not gong to start listing examples because there's a whole investigation you can read, including the statements of victims and quotes from Mr Corbyn and others.
    It's interesting then that after those BoJo's comments, hate crimes against Muslims rose "375% in the week following". An actual, factual example of the consequences of his words. You can't care too much about oppression if you're belittling that fact.

    I've got to laugh at this comment - "I'm more concerned about anti semitism than most other forms of racism for the simple reason that it's the only one backed by a political party". Really? You honestly think the Labour party is backing anti-semitism - and if that's the case - you're just going to completely ignore alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the examples of racism from the other parties - BNP and UKIP aren't backing racism? F**k off

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    It's interesting then that after those BoJo's comments, hate crimes against Muslims rose "375% in the week following". An actual, factual example of the consequences of his words. You can't care too much about oppression if you're belittling that fact.

    I've got to laugh at this comment - "I'm more concerned about anti semitism than most other forms of racism for the simple reason that it's the only one backed by a political party". Really? You honestly think the Labour party is backing anti-semitism - and if that's the case - you're just going to completely ignore alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll of the examples of racism from the other parties - BNP and UKIP aren't backing racism? F**k off

    Well no. As I told you, I don't support any party so I'm not defending any of them and thus it's not my job to justify whatever they might have said. However , in the real world, anti semitism is potentially far more serious than - for example - Bulgarian yobbos being impolite to football players or someone telling banned jokes. Why's that ? Because it can quickly result in death camps and genocide.

    The reason I say that the Monster Raving New Labour Party is backing anti semitism is because senior, albeit comedic ,members of that Party defend or deny it instead of committing to stop it. Yes, some have objected to it and some have resigned about it, but it's shocking to many people that the leadership won't acknowledge the problem.

    Look, Jews have taken active roles in that party, but a lot of Jewish people I know tell me they won't ever vote labour again and they do talk quite seriously about the possible escalation of this poison . Some have left the country, and many more have quiet plans to do that if labour ger into power. When that's happening, and it is, it's certainly a problem.

    As I said, I wouldn't vote for any main party , but if I did this would be enough to stop me voting labour and I'd hope that would be the case for a lot of decent people who regard these things as perhaps the thin end of the wedge.
    I don't mind what words people use or what jokes they tell, but anyone who wants to start actually hurting people because of their race will have a big problem from me

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