I thought he looked tidy and I'm sure he'll improve with game time. MM seemed to be yelling at him a lot in the first half but I couldn't make out what he was saying.
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I thought he looked tidy and I'm sure he'll improve with game time. MM seemed to be yelling at him a lot in the first half but I couldn't make out what he was saying.
He barely got a kick in the first half, but came into the game a bit more after the break, but it was inevitable that he was going to be one of the first to be substituted - I think it needs to be remembered that, much like Keiffer Moore and Leandro Bacuna, he’s effectively doing his pre season work in league games.Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I don’t think the fanfare surrounding the kid is good for him.
Being taken to the Euros has just made the expectation even higher and all this before he’s barely kicked a ball for the first team.
Agreed.
yep agree
Agreed
I felt that the first half passed most of the players by. The second half showed improvement by degrees and Colwill was a part of that improvement. But as theotherbobwilson says, you sort of knew Colwill would come of, and it was good that it occurred after some good contributions from him, so it was not a case of being hooked.
I thought he did well… first major home debut in front of fans.
He and Moore also got battered first half. Most of it illegal and ignored by an absolutely hopeless ref
I think that's part of the directives this season for the referees to let more go.
I thought he struggled today.
I thought that he lacked a bit of awareness. It made it look as though he was unaware of his position. Flint had the ball once in the first half, bringing it out and played a 30 yard ball wide to no avail, I thought that Colwill should have been the one to make a show for a shorter pass and keeping possession.
The way we play means that the ball isn't going to miraculously be passed to you. And in the first half that was certainly the case for Colwill. Second half though he came looking for the ball more and started to make better runs with the ball. Made a poor decision to pass to Moore rather than shoot. Will be a good player for us and will get sharper.
The "he's only 19" tag seems would seem fair in what little football be's played, if he had shown a mere semblance of promise. Yet to me he looks weak, slow, and in truth would barely get a start in most league 1 sides. Bristol City had a 17yr old on the pitch against Swansea who didn't look out of place.
He and Harris have a future in football no doubt, but at Championship level ?
Alex Scott, he's 18, but only justAlthough physically more advanced. I'm not going to get into a debate about Colwill, because i didn't see yesterdays game and he hasn't played enough for most of us to make any clear judgement. He obviously has ability, but how anyone can make a call on that is very difficult in my opinion.
So you think he hasn't shown ‘a mere semblance of promise’. Everyone else, including the current manager and his coaching staff, the Welsh manager and his coaching staff, all the scouts who have been watching him, the media and most of our fans (including me) are wrong then. I bow to your superior knowledge.
You should employ that tactic a bit more often. This board is about opinions. I thought there was a decent debate going on with varied points of view and then you show up with your faux indignation and start insulting people. Why don't you relax and just try and make your point?So you think he hasn't shown ‘a mere semblance of promise’. Everyone else, including the current manager and his coaching staff, the Welsh manager and his coaching staff, all the scouts who have been watching him, the media and most of our fans (including me) are wrong then. I bow to your superior knowledge.
I used the phrase "Yet to me..". It's an opinion.So you think he hasn't shown ‘a mere semblance of promise’. Everyone else, including the current manager and his coaching staff, the Welsh manager and his coaching staff, all the scouts who have been watching him, the media and most of our fans (including me) are wrong then. I bow to your superior knowledge.
I don’t know what sort of career Colwill will have with us, no one does, but we don’t play in a manner designed to bring the best out of players who operate just behind the striker like he does - if Harry Wilson and Lee Tomlin struggled to make an impact in the first half of home matches, it’s a pretty sure thing Colwill will.
You come across as Mr Reasonable and seem quite knowledgeable about City and football generally but then you come out with something like this !! Do you think that we would deliberately bring a talented, ball playing, attacking midfielder through our system just so that we can stick him in the first team and try to get him to totally change the way he plays ? He is where he is currently in his development and is the type of player he is because he has been brought through our youth and under 23 systems and taught in the right way to make the most of his natural ability. Instead of giving praise to our current youth development structure and staff for the young players we are bringing through at the moment, you insinuate that he (and others) will fail because we don’t play the right way. How are we supposed to alter the way we play unless we develop our young talent and get them to the first team. Its all doom and gloom isn’t it, as usual.
It’s become a viscous circle with the City whereby we’re finally giving players like Colwill a chance, but during all of those years when we weren’t doing that we pursued policies which resulted in the present situation where we’re unable to provide the sort of service to so called flair players in the first half of matches in particular which gets the best out of them. This has made the challenge facing the current crop of youngsters breaking into the side tougher than it needed to be - having a first team which plays in a completely different manner to the age group teams could have been avoided with a bit of planning of a kind that some supporters were calling for when Russell Slade was here.
Wether Colwill will develop into a championship and international footballer remains to be seen, he obviously has talent if he’s standing out in City and Wales training sessions, but starting to write him off after his first start in front of a crowd is utterly ****ing pathetic, even by City fans standards. He hasn’t had a pre season either remember, he’s same as Moore in that regard and he isn’t exactly firing on all cylinders yet either.
Bagan is another coming in for criticsm. I just don’t get it. Did people think they were going to come in and never going to make a mistake? Developing your own players in the first team means they we’ll be learning and developing on the job. Patience is required.
It’s little wonder we don’t produce many of our own players with such a toxic and impatient fan base.
we have had so few youngsters brought through over the years that I guess the crowd need re-educating as to what to expect.
they will make mistakes, and have games where they struggle to make an impact. as long as they keep improving and we are still getting good results then that's fine
think about our more established players - what were they doing when they were 19? Moore, Morrison, Pack, Ralls - none of them were the finished article and would have struggled to make any impact at this level until they were a few years older.
it's still too early to tell whether they will ultimately play the majority of their career at this level, but if they don't get game time then it's a lot less likely that they will.
I agree. People on here have been moaning we don't give youth a chance, but when we do they whinge that we haven't bought enough players or give the young player one or two games and then grumble that they should be dropped,often because they are showing their inexperience. As you say, how on earth are they meant to gain experience if they are not playing games?
I think weve got a good group of young players. Id like to see Sang given a go in centre of midfield at some point.
Luckily our coaching staff and the Welsh coaching staff know far more about footballing ability than some of our fans.
It doesn't help his cause that our midfield was mostly bypassed with long balls to the striker in the first half.
He's a player that needs the ball to his feet going forward he lived off scraps most of the game.
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