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  1. #26

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    I can wait for this general election as for the first time in my lifetime MP's have been so exposed to scrutiny to the public over the last three years .

    Perhaps , for the first time voting , in line with ones generation trend before them ,may not happen. ??

    I also think a lot of folk won't vote , as they dislike their perspective leaders .

    Labour party make take the biggest hit and I'm guessing that what's the latest amendment mantra is all about to include 16/17 years / European national , yep its all about vote gathering.

  2. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Why not make it 13+ with no over 30s allowed to vote, and while we are at it only those born outside of the UK can vote? As a final measure, anybody who has ever voted Tory is their lifetime will be disqualfied, and only people with the initials JC are allowed to become PM, as long as they swear an oath of allegance to the EU. Even then, some people will say these measures don't go far enough!
    You knickers are extra twisty tonight.

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I can wait for this general election as for the first time in my lifetime MP's have been so exposed to scrutiny to the public over the last three years .

    Perhaps , for the first time voting , in line with ones generation trend before them ,may not happen. ??

    I also think a lot of folk won't vote , as they dislike their perspective leaders .

    Labour party make take the biggest hit and I'm guessing that what's the latest amendment mantra is all about to include 16/17 years / European national , yep its all about vote gathering.
    EU national amendment was tabled by the SNP I think.

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    In this age of global warming should we also allow those likely to be effected , like nursery children , polar bears , bats , bees red squirrels , badgers , we need everyone /thing to stop us leaving and JC does speak to the mammals better than Boris
    I think if you can't go to the toilet on your own then you shouldn't have the vote. That's the Tory vote share down by a few percent.

  5. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Speak for yourself in regard to ‘let’s hope we can get rid of Labour’

    Obviously you’re bored and on a fishing trip and whilst I’m not that impressed with Corbyn I’d still prefer him to that utter charlatan currently residing in number 10.

    I was only speaking for myself. Is it a "fishing trip" to start a thread about it when a general election is called ?

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Out of interest what would the Socialist Republic of Wales look like. Will it have its own currency and hard border with England as the republic pursues and negotiates different trade, immigration and security treaties with the rest of the world whilst England goes down a far more free market/deregulated route?

    Yeah, I'm thinking of declaring independence in my back garden . It won't be socialist of course, but there'll be less chance of starvation .

  7. #32

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    Shame the 16/17 year old vote didnt go through.They could have voted and then mugged the tory voting oap's on the way homw

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Out of interest what would the Socialist Republic of Wales look like. Will it have its own currency and hard border with England as the republic pursues and negotiates different trade, immigration and security treaties with the rest of the world whilst England goes down a far more free market/deregulated route?
    I see us being rebranded as Walezuela

  9. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    Shame the 16/17 year old vote didnt go through.They could have voted and then mugged the tory voting oap's on the way homw
    Bloody well read political hoodies taking over our politics , they should concentrate more on getting their voting right on X Factor and Love Island first ,its all over the place .

    I guess MP's do know many dont leave thier bedrooms , and its very dark and
    cold after 4pm

  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Yeah, I'm thinking of declaring independence in my back garden . It won't be socialist of course, but there'll be less chance of starvation .
    Get an allotment like magic grandpa, your shed could be a revolutionists type palace, and you coukd use your fork to drive away the nasty capitalist if they try and approach your marrows.

  11. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandywarhol View Post
    Shame the 16/17 year old vote didnt go through.They could have voted and then mugged the tory voting oap's on the way homw
    The argument that they shouldn't get the vote effectively boils down to "They're kids!"

    Strangely the government don't reject their taxes on the same grounds

  12. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    I would much prefer Labour with Corbyn to crush the Conservative and Unionist party even if Mrs Thatcher did think her greatest achievement was creating NuLabour, the only hope down the line is for the UK to break up and for Wales to become a Socialist Republic.
    Vote Plaid for a socialist, tropical Wales

  13. #38

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    It'll be another General Election I won't partake in. GCHQ will have to go back and check the 1997 ballot papers to discover who I voted for (Plaid Cymru, as with all prior) in our un-secret ballots.

    Once more, whatever the composition the new House of Commons will be those legalised loan sharks in the City of London will be quids in as they'll continue to magic 97% of the money supply into existence from zilch to loan out at interest as all 650 MPs will have their backs.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Get an allotment like magic grandpa, your shed could be a revolutionists type palace, and you coukd use your fork to drive away the nasty capitalist if they try and approach your marrows.
    Actually I had an allotment in Harrow when I lived in London so I can't knock him for that . I'm lucky enough to have a very big garden now with polytunnels although unfortunately I find the digging and stuff such hard work that I keep saying this is the last year with the vegetables , although just like Sir Neil I keep doing it for another year.
    I have indeed got sheds, but I think I'll base the government in my log cabin, which I shall remodel to resemble the Chieftain's Hrall of my Ancestors.
    I shall adopt the title of Jarl and my herdsmen will drive away unwelcome interlopers. Capitalists will be welcome, as will climate change deniers, smokers and all hard fighting men who are roisterers and doisterers. You and WB will be honoured guests if you can bring your dragon head boats around the coast , raiding as you go, but weaklings and virtue signallers will not be welcome.

  15. #40

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    Theresa May had a majority in government with the DUP. They failed to bring about Brexit when it was in their own hands. Had they all supported May, Brexit would have happened by now. That is unquestionable.

    Typical Tory. Blame everyone else for your own failings.

  16. #41

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    Questions for this coming election:

    NHS or Brexit?
    Jobs or Brexit?
    Workers' rights or Brexit?
    Supporting our vunerable veterans or Brexit?
    Living wage or Brexit?
    Freedom to live, work and study in Europe or Brexit?
    Council services or Brexit?
    Trying to eradicate homelessness and foodbank usage or Brexit?

    Is there anyone willing to say they prioritise Brexit above everything else, who supports Johnson, despite his own government's analysis?

  17. #42

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    Well, I watched Newsnight last night and saw Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem and SNP MPs being interviewed along with a representative from the Brexit Party and, based on what was said, I thought my vote would be best cast by asking for an independent Scotland . Is Richard Burgon seen as some sort of rising star in the Labour party because he always seems to be on the telly and yet every time I see him he makes me less likely to vote for them.

  18. #43

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    Tories are at 36%, Labour at 24% support according to the BBC political poll tracker: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49798197

    Labour's worst post WW2 General Election showing was in 1983 when they attracted 27.6% of the popular vote for 209 seats. 41 of them were in Scotland where they were decimated in 2015 winning just a single seat, down from 41 five years earlier. They captured seven in 2017. Unless they have a remarkable upturn in fortunes they'll return under 200 MPs. It'll be nearer 150 should they allow that ghastly creature Dianne Abbott near TV studios again.

  19. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    Tories are at 36%, Labour at 24% support according to the BBC political poll tracker: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49798197

    Labour's worst post WW2 General Election showing was in 1983 when they attracted 27.6% of the popular vote for 209 seats. 41 of them were in Scotland where they were decimated in 2015 winning just a single seat, down from 41 five years earlier. They captured seven in 2017. Unless they have a remarkable upturn in fortunes they'll return under 200 MPs. It'll be nearer 150 should they allow that ghastly creature Dianne Abbott near TV studios again.
    It should be added that the Tory lead was greater than that 2 years ago. I predict that other issues will gain importance as the election nears. It's in the Tories interests to make sure it's all about Brexit as they will likely get crushed on other issues.

  20. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It should be added that the Tory lead was greater than that 2 years ago. I predict that other issues will gain importance as the election nears. It's in the Tories interests to make sure it's all about Brexit as they will likely get crushed on other issues.
    The Tory lead was 21 points at about this point in the 2017 campaign.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ew-poll-shows/

    On the day of the election, they had a 12 point lead.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-election-poll

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It should be added that the Tory lead was greater than that 2 years ago. I predict that other issues will gain importance as the election nears. It's in the Tories interests to make sure it's all about Brexit as they will likely get crushed on other issues.
    Don't forget Nigel lurking in the shadows.

  22. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The Tory lead was 21 points at about this point in the 2017 campaign.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ew-poll-shows/

    On the day of the election, they had a 12 point lead.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-election-poll
    Some polls have Tories at 40%. I would be shocked if they got that percentage of the vote this time around considering all the Tory remainers have now fled and Nigel will be a factor in this campaign.

  23. #48

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    Led by Donkeys doing some sterling work again.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1189480140843167747

  24. #49

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    We seem to have wandered away from the point. Will we accept the outcome of a general election or will the losing side and media block it, demanding a re run ?

  25. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Led by Donkeys doing some sterling work again.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1189480140843167747
    They had one on Llandaff N high street.

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