America again.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

I'm not defending Trump, but the news media are a disgrace. They don't report on politics, they are in the business of politics, pushing agengas, shaping narratives, etc.. And it's not only happening in America, it's everywhere.

There's no doubt elements of the media push a narrative that will help them (more often that not it's the right that does this) but to suggest they're all a disgrace is disingenuous and misleading, and recently has become dangerous. If we were to have a purely fact based narrative a calmer voice is necessary.

[Wales-Bales]

There's no doubt elements of the media push a narrative that will help them (more often that not it's the right that does this) but to suggest they're all a disgrace is disingenuous and misleading, and recently has become dangerous. If we were to have a purely fact based narrative a calmer voice is necessary.

Both sides are at it, and it's not just in America, you only need to look at Brexit, and around Europe to see parallels. I believe we have reached a crossroads, and what we are now witnessing is an ideological war being played out amongst opposing factions of elites from around the world.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

Both sides are at it, and it's not just in America, you only need to look at Brexit, and around Europe to see parallels. I believe we have reached a crossroads, and what we are now witnessing is an ideological war being played out amongst opposing factions of elites from around the world.

One of the things that fuels the media narrative, of course, is sensationalism. With the rise of social media we got the democratisation of sensationalism - for instance, people on a football forum suggesting the news media are a disgrace and believing we are in an ideological war. What happened to the fact based narrative? Seems like we all like a dramatic story.

[Wales-Bales]

One of the things that fuels the media narrative, of course, is sensationalism. With the rise of social media we got the democratisation of sensationalism - for instance, people on a football forum suggesting the news media are a disgrace and believing we are in an ideological war. What happened to the fact based narrative? Seems like we all like a dramatic story.

We are living in interesting times, when last was there such political turmoil everywhere you look? Even Merkel is standing down from her party role. Regarding the media, I'm going to double down, they are players in everything that is going on right now.

[cyril evans awaydays]

We are living in interesting times, when last was there such political turmoil everywhere you look? Even Merkel is standing down from her party role. Regarding the media, I'm going to double down, they are players in everything that is going on right now.

Gosh, doubling down on I quote "they are players in everything that is going on right now". You couldn't be a bit more vague could you?

[Wales-Bales]

Gosh, doubling down on I quote "they are players in everything that is going on right now". You couldn't be a bit more vague could you?

Is Trump Russia Collusion real or was it a setup? At the end of the day this it what it's all about, everything else is window-dressing.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Is Trump Russia Collusion real or was it a setup? At the end of the day this it what it's all about, everything else is window-dressing.

Ok - the media are supposedly complicit in the Trump Russia Collusion (thought that was a special investigation initiated by Trump appointees but hey-ho). That just leaves everything else that is going on right now to explain!