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  1. #1

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    Cornelius got injured, then got a public dressing down from Tan and that was the end of his time in Wales.
    When he did come on, he looked lost like a deer in the headlights. Again, if the fee was a lot less, wages a lot less then we could have afforded to carry him to see if he could progress.

    He cost £10m. Medel, Caulker both £8m - £8.5m. Both instant starters. For the money spent on Cornelius, there's no argument he should have been at the level of being able to make an impact instantly. No way we would carry him on the money he was on.

  2. #2

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    When he did come on, he looked lost like a deer in the headlights. Again, if the fee was a lot less, wages a lot less then we could have afforded to carry him to see if he could progress.

    He cost £10m. Medel, Caulker both £8m - £8.5m. Both instant starters. For the money spent on Cornelius, there's no argument he should have been at the level of being able to make an impact instantly. No way we would carry him on the money he was on.
    And this was all somehow his fault?

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    And this was all somehow his fault?
    Has anybody said it was? As I said a while ago, wrong move at the wrong time for him. If we'd persisted with him then a few years down the line he may have progressed enough, but that's a stupid thing to do whilst paying him 45k a week. There's no justification at that point in time for doing anything other than selling Cornelius - if the player had agreed to a vast reduction in wages ( which would never happen ), then keep him. All we could do was minimise the loss.

  4. #4

    Re: Cornelius

    Indeed. Alongside the then CCFC Pantomime that he woke up in, I think it is at least possible that he got caught up in a professional situation that he rapidly realised that he was not up to, and/or not ready for, and maybe even faced hostility.
    And likely wanted out ASAP.
    Just a hunch.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    Just a hunch.
    Don't let that stop you

    Others here are making up sh*t again as they go along again I see.

    The ones that are happy to sit back and agree with everything the hierarchy throw at them are the reason we've had to endure the current regime. A few seem to be auditioning for the next Tan birthday video

  6. #6

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    A few seem to be auditioning for the next Tan birthday video
    5 wins seems to have a few Cardiff fans running to the library to rip up the history books. It's Orwellian just how much history has been re-written here in the last few weeks.

  7. #7

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    5 wins seems to have a few Cardiff fans running to the library to rip up the history books. It's Orwellian just how much history has been re-written here in the last few weeks.
    Jirga you've been posting the same shite for 5 years now, can you please give it a rest.

    Cornelius was the most expensive player signed by City at the time, he was never started in the league and people were calling him a parks player from the first time they saw him warming up.

    He obviously isn't a bad player but he was never worth that money, even Nigel Pearson said Leicester were going to sign him for around 1 million and was shocked that Cardiff had paid 10 times as much.

  8. #8

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    5 wins seems to have a few Cardiff fans running to the library to rip up the history books. It's Orwellian just how much history has been re-written here in the last few weeks.


    Aint you the poster who claimed we were on a sound financial footing before Tan came in. Or words to that effect.

  9. #9

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiw-Blue View Post
    Don't let that stop you

    Others here are making up sh*t again as they go along again I see.

    The ones that are happy to sit back and agree with everything the hierarchy throw at them are the reason we've had to endure the current regime. A few seem to be auditioning for the next Tan birthday video
    Whilst you on the other hand are sitting in your Tan proof bunker, all bitter and twisted, not enjoying anything about the way the club is being run now and the way the team is playing. Every now and again you stick your head above the parapet and have a moan about all us gullible idiots who are actually enjoying ourselves and looking forward to the rest of the season and then you retreat back in to your morose world waiting for the next opportunity to have a go.

  10. #10

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post
    Indeed. Alongside the then CCFC Pantomime that he woke up in, I think it is at least possible that he got caught up in a professional situation that he rapidly realised that he was not up to, and/or not ready for, and maybe even faced hostility.
    And likely wanted out ASAP.
    Just a hunch.
    He was disliked , probably a bit of jealousy about his wages . He wasn't held in high regard by his fellow pros.

  11. #11

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life View Post
    When he did come on, he looked lost like a deer in the headlights. Again, if the fee was a lot less, wages a lot less then we could have afforded to carry him to see if he could progress.

    He cost £10m. Medel, Caulker both £8m - £8.5m. Both instant starters. For the money spent on Cornelius, there's no argument he should have been at the level of being able to make an impact instantly. No way we would carry him on the money he was on.
    Again, I refer you to the pressure that Tan put on his young shoulders. A £10m striker - no chance, but he's better than his time at Cardiff.

    Medel cost £11m and was a recognised international, Caulker had had a few seasons in the Premier before Cardiff. When Cornelius signed, I suspect you were one of the ones wetting your pants over the you tube videos.

  12. #12

    Re: Cornelius

    Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
    Again, I refer you to the pressure that Tan put on his young shoulders. A £10m striker - no chance, but he's better than his time at Cardiff.

    Medel cost £11m and was a recognised international, Caulker had had a few seasons in the Premier before Cardiff. When Cornelius signed, I suspect you were one of the ones wetting your pants over the you tube videos.
    Not at all. I know you want to make things like that up to bolster your view, but not true. I've not wet my pants since toilet training many moons ago, nor do I use Youtube.

    Did Cornelius have the physique to do well? Sure. Was he mentally there? Probably not. Massive leap up in standard of play after all.

    The problem was the way Cornelius had been billed and the contract. As I keep saying, if he had been signed as a project, lower fee, lower wages then we could have afforded to be more patient with him, brought him along. He still may not have developed here, who knows? I suspect he'd have progressed well enough, especially after the drop to the Championship and certainly under Warnock.

    The signing fee, wages meant he was too costly to be kept playing DVP level matches, the odd sub appearance here and there. Once it became apparent he wasn't going to be a goal scoring attacker capable of helping us stay in the Prem, that contract damned him.

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