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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    More regulated that someones front room and a couple of crates of Bow.
    How about their garden? Incidentally, I've visited two pubs since March. It's fair to say the social distancing rules were not being rigorously enforced in either. In fairness, doing so would have been pretty much impossible for the staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    How about their garden? Incidentally, I've visited two pubs since March. It's fair to say the social distancing rules were not being rigorously enforced is in either. In fairness, doing so would have been pretty much impossible for the staff.
    This is my experience too.

    It’s worth noting that assaults on door staff have been growing with increased restriction on venues.

    Incredibly hard to keep on top of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    Incredibly hard to keep on top of.
    What I found amazing at the first I visited was that they had a large table set up for around 16 people. This was when you still had to be outside and pre-book and all that stuff. And when the people who had booked this large table started arriving, social distancing was absolute zero amongst them - all blokes, all in their forties and fifties by the look of them, big bear hugs, handshakes, the works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    What I found amazing at the first I visited was that they had a large table set up for around 16 people. This was when you still had to be outside and pre-book and all that stuff. And when the people who had booked this large table started arriving, social distancing was absolute zero amongst them - all blokes, all in their forties and fifties by the look of them, big bear hugs, handshakes, the works.
    Then we are fighting a losing battle.

    That said there are 3 or 4 licensing officers covering all Cardiff which will also cover taxi's food places etc. They have no chance.

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    How about their garden? Incidentally, I've visited two pubs since March. It's fair to say the social distancing rules were not being rigorously enforced in either. In fairness, doing so would have been pretty much impossible for the staff.
    Depends on how many people are in the garden and how the interact i suppose, and that's the problem, isn't it? And it's going to end up in the house, especially this time of year. As for the pubs, that's a matter for the landlord i suppose. They must have rules on social distancing and capacity, if they're not prepared to carry them out then that's not the governments fault. By that reckoning shops would have to close as it's impossible to completely social distance when overtaking the dickhead family who like to fill the aisle with their super sized backsides.

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Depends on how many people are in the garden and how the interact i suppose, and that's the problem, isn't it?
    I guess I'm particularly sore about this particular piece of news due to my sister-in-law's situation. I know the government has a thankless task in some respects, but some of these restrictions really do seem petty and unreasonable to me, and I also think they make little sense in reality. Drakeford and Co are basically saying that people can't be trusted to behave in their own gardens but they can be trusted in a pub because there are bar staff present. Bit daft if you ask me.

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I guess I'm particularly sore about this particular piece of news due to my sister-in-law's situation. I know the government has a thankless task in some respects, but some of these restrictions really do seem petty and unreasonable to me, and I also think they make little sense in reality. Drakeford and Co are basically saying that people can't be trusted to behave in their own gardens but they can be trusted in a pub because there are bar staff present. Bit daft if you ask me.
    I’m with you. Our family can form a bubble. My wife wants it to be with her mother but so does her sister.

    They need to go to the pub to see each other but can’t meet up for a cup of tea in her house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    I’m with you. Our family can form a bubble. My wife wants it to be with her mother but so does her sister.

    They need to go to the pub to see each other but can’t meet up for a cup of tea in her house.
    My sister-in-law is terminally ill. She can't go to pubs or cafes even if she wanted to. They've got a nice garden with a decent gazebo-type thing, so she could sit out there with a couple of friends if the weather was good enough. That's not allowed, though. She'd have to go to the pub is she wanted to socialise at all, because they've got bar staff there.

    The thing that gets me is the people who would take the piss if you were allowed to see friends in your garden will take the piss anyway, regardless of any rules. You know that, I know that and Drakeford knows that. The only people who will be genuinely penalised by this restriction are those who actually follow the rules. That's why it makes no sense to me.

  9. #9

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    My sister-in-law is terminally ill. She can't go to pubs or cafes even if she wanted to. They've got a nice garden with a decent gazebo-type thing, so she could sit out there with a couple of friends if the weather was good enough. That's not allowed, though. She'd have to go to the pub is she wanted to socialise at all, because they've got bar staff there.

    The thing that gets me is the people who would take the piss if you were allowed to see friends in your garden will take the piss anyway, regardless of any rules. You know that, I know that and Drakeford knows that. The only people who will be genuinely penalised by this restriction are those who actually follow the rules. That's why it makes no sense to me.
    A terrible situation. Drakeford can't form policy based on a minority of arseholes though. Could you imagine him saying 'Do what you like, because some people are quite likely to **** things up for others' This board would go into meltdown, enough people hate him already based on little in my opinion.

  10. #10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    A terrible situation. Drakeford can't form policy based on a minority of arseholes though.
    On this occasion he has. He's formed a policy based on the small minority who would take the piss if people were allowed to meet friends in their gardens, and the likelihood is those people will ignore the rules and do what they like anyway.

  11. #11

    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I guess I'm particularly sore about this particular piece of news due to my sister-in-law's situation. I know the government has a thankless task in some respects, but some of these restrictions really do seem petty and unreasonable to me, and I also think they make little sense in reality. Drakeford and Co are basically saying that people can't be trusted to behave in their own gardens but they can be trusted in a pub because there are bar staff present. Bit daft if you ask me.
    I understand your situation, it doesn't seem fair. From my point of view i know of a few people who have had groups in their house and in the garden during the warmer months, to even that up, i know even more people who haven't. I suppose the government believes that it has a chance with businesses that aren't going to follow the rules, it has zero chance when dealing with plebs, it sadly means that the large majority of sensible caring people are penalised because of ****wits who possess zero respect for others.

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