The Donald Trump thread

[Wales-Bales]

I agree, but I'm sure it's for very different reasons

Well, we are going to find out soon enough, you have nailed your colours to the mast and there will be no escaping that

[Heisenberg]

Well, we are going to find out soon enough, you have nailed your colours to the mast and there will be no escaping that

Says the "Trump Russia Collusion Delusion" guy.

It's hilarious that you think you "sit on the fence"

[Wales-Bales]

Says the "Trump Russia Collusion Delusion" guy.

It's hilarious that you think you "sit on the fence"

I read source documents, while you get your information directly from those who don't want you to know what is going on. Like I said, there is only going to be one outcome, so let's wait and see.

[Heisenberg]

I read source documents,
Which ones are those? Are they like the ones you posted the other day about Hillary Clinton/Anthony Wiener that I had to explain to you? Feel free to share them at any time if you care about enlightening the rest of us and guiding us onto the right track.

while you get your information directly from those who don't want you to know what is going on. For someone who thinks that everyone is lying to the public, how do you know who to believe, eh? Although, I got my latest bit of info from Rudy Giuliani - so you're probably right about me.

Like I said, there is only going to be one outcome, so let's wait and see.
Want to tell us what that outcome is, since you're so confident or will you continue with your M.O. of deflect, obfuscate, deflect?

I'm awaiting something along the lines of "you wouldn't understand/won't accept the truth" etc... which will be the deflect part.

We may even get some obfuscation too, if we're lucky

[Wales-Bales]

I'm awaiting something along the lines of "you wouldn't understand/won't accept the truth" etc... which will be the deflect part.

We may even get some obfuscation too, if we're lucky

We should talk later, once it gets past the he said/she said stage, but my guess is Bruce Ohr is going to be the weak link who brings down the whole house of cards. Ms Page has been cooperating, I'm not sure who else as they have been running a tight ship. Flynn and Papadopoulos will be interesting, still plenty of twists and turns ahead!

[Heisenberg]

We should talk later, once it gets past the he said/she said stage, but my guess is Bruce Ohr is going to be the weak link who brings down the whole house of cards. Ms Page has been cooperating, I'm not sure who else as they have been running a tight ship. Flynn and Papadopoulos will be interesting, still plenty of twists and turns ahead!

Why are you only guessing?... you read "source documents" for christ's sake!

Like all conspiracy theorists, you can't bear the thought of not having insider information. Sadly though, you're in the same position as the rest of us schmoes, where we get second hand information that we have to decide how to process... and you take all of one side, where I take most of the other side - due to our different beliefs/stances on matters. The difference is that those of us who don't blindly follow the 'alternative facts' crowd will be more likely to admit fault when/if we've been duped.

If Mueller cannot find any evidence linking Trump with criminal activities, then I'll apologise to you for the mockery I've aimed at you. I can't imagine you doing the same for those who think Trump is guilty if he ends up facing any charges. I can almost see you claiming further conspiracies are brewing against him and there's a bigger story behind it all if he steps foot in a courtroom (or whatever setting where he needs to answer to his possible crimes).

The side you've chosen (and you have chosen a side!) cannot get their story straight on anything to do with this investigation, yet you're happy to think that they may not be hiding anything. Can you see how ridiculous that is? If they had nothing to hide, surely they could get their facts straight?!

Just look at *the lesser* Rudy G's comments in the link I posted. That's not photoshopped or edited is it? He literally says that he never said something that he was recorded saying on camera. That's evidence of him being dishonest and an outright liar - but you won't accept that for some reason. That reason is because it's not what you want to be true. You almost need there to be no collusion now as that would mean some 'deep-state' shit is happening and you're long held beliefs of a New World Order or whatever is justified. Maybe that would also mean that the other shit that you and Splott David used to post on here about false flags, and other Alex Jones, David Icke lunacy may have been true after all.

The biggest problem I've got with people like you, Gluey, and this is genuine, is... If you think everything is a ****ing conspiracy, how are we as a society supposed to filter out what the real conspiracies are? When you, and others like you, share dangerous stories and accusations about things like school shootings and child trafficking in the basement of a pizza restaurant - without a shred of evidence - you are doing nothing but scaremongering. If there were any real-world consequences for posting the outright libellous crap that I've seen you post over the years, I wonder if you'd do some real research instead of jumping on the newest InfoWars/4Chan bandwagon? Who knows, eh?

Whoa... I got incredibly sidetracked there and just realised that I've typed a mini essay. I've got some source documents to read now, so I'd better be off. I doubt any of what I said will matter to you, but I feel better for getting it off my chest. Good night.

[Wales-Bales]

Why are you only guessing?... you read "source documents" for christ's sake!

Like all conspiracy theorists, you can't bear the thought of not having insider information. Sadly though, you're in the same position as the rest of us schmoes, where we get second hand information that we have to decide how to process... and you take all of one side, where I take most of the other side - due to our different beliefs/stances on matters. The difference is that those of us who don't blindly follow the 'alternative facts' crowd will be more likely to admit fault when/if we've been duped.

If Mueller cannot find any evidence linking Trump with criminal activities, then I'll apologise to you for the mockery I've aimed at you. I can't imagine you doing the same for those who think Trump is guilty if he ends up facing any charges. I can almost see you claiming further conspiracies are brewing against him and there's a bigger story behind it all if he steps foot in a courtroom (or whatever setting where he needs to answer to his possible crimes).

The side you've chosen (and you have chosen a side!) cannot get their story straight on anything to do with this investigation, yet you're happy to think that they may not be hiding anything. Can you see how ridiculous that is? If they had nothing to hide, surely they could get their facts straight?!

Just look at *the lesser* Rudy G's comments in the link I posted. That's not photoshopped or edited is it? He literally says that he never said something that he was recorded saying on camera. That's evidence of him being dishonest and an outright liar - but you won't accept that for some reason. That reason is because it's not what you want to be true. You almost need there to be no collusion now as that would mean some 'deep-state' shit is happening and you're long held beliefs of a New World Order or whatever is justified. Maybe that would also mean that the other shit that you and Splott David used to post on here about false flags, and other Alex Jones, David Icke lunacy may have been true after all.

The biggest problem I've got with people like you, Gluey, and this is genuine, is... If you think everything is a ****ing conspiracy, how are we as a society supposed to filter out what the real conspiracies are? When you, and others like you, share dangerous stories and accusations about things like school shootings and child trafficking in the basement of a pizza restaurant - without a shred of evidence - you are doing nothing but scaremongering. If there were any real-world consequences for posting the outright libellous crap that I've seen you post over the years, I wonder if you'd do some real research instead of jumping on the newest InfoWars/4Chan bandwagon? Who knows, eh?

Whoa... I got incredibly sidetracked there and just realised that I've typed a mini essay. I've got some source documents to read now, so I'd better be off. I doubt any of what I said will matter to you, but I feel better for getting it off my chest. Good night.

Good rant, but like I said before I don't push conspiracy theories, I just discuss the facts that surround them like document trails, official hearings, conflicting evidence, etc. I find it's always good to stick to the facts.

[cyril evans awaydays]

I read source documents, while you get your information directly from those who don't want you to know what is going on. Like I said, there is only going to be one outcome, so let's wait and see.

The key to the door has been unlocked, and from hereon in the whole house of cards could fall very quickly. Since they have the husband and the wife their stories could unravel fast. Wasserman Schultz is next in the firing line, and who knows where it will go from there. An indictment means they cannot flee the country and further investigations are currently ongoing. There is a lot of info on the internet laying out the potential crimes that they have commited. In fact, it is from these investigations by alternative media and private citizens that brought about these initial charges. The DNC and certain law enforcement agencies tried to bury the whole thing. It will also be interesting where this all of this fits in with the pending Assange revelations. Awan is known to have been associated with Seth Rich.


Here are some of your thought processes presumably based on source documents. What source documents and and what are the outcomes here for example?

[Wales-Bales]

The key to the door has been unlocked, and from hereon in the whole house of cards could fall very quickly. Since they have the husband and the wife their stories could unravel fast. Wasserman Schultz is next in the firing line, and who knows where it will go from there. An indictment means they cannot flee the country and further investigations are currently ongoing. There is a lot of info on the internet laying out the potential crimes that they have commited. In fact, it is from these investigations by alternative media and private citizens that brought about these initial charges. The DNC and certain law enforcement agencies tried to bury the whole thing. It will also be interesting where this all of this fits in with the pending Assange revelations. Awan is known to have been associated with Seth Rich.


Here are some of your thought processes presumably based on source documents. What source documents and and what are the outcomes here for example?

http://www.documentcloud.org/search/preview?q=projectid%3A+33889-house-it-scandal+&slug=projectid-33889-house-it-scandal&options=%7B"q"%3A"projectid%3A+33889-house-it-scandal+"%2C"container"%3A"%23DC-search-projectid-33889-house-it-scandal"%2C"title"%3A"Imran+Awan+Court+Documents"%2C"order"%3A"title"%2C"per_page"%3A"12"%2C"search_bar"%3Atrue%2C"organization"%3A2085%7D

[cyril evans awaydays]

http://www.documentcloud.org/search/preview?q=projectid%3A+33889-house-it-scandal+&slug=projectid-33889-house-it-scandal&options=%7B"q"%3A"projectid%3A+33889-house-it-scandal+"%2C"container"%3A"%23DC-search-projectid-33889-house-it-scandal"%2C"title"%3A"Imran+Awan+Court+Documents"%2C"order"%3A"title"%2C"per_page"%3A"12"%2C"search_bar"%3Atrue%2C"organization"%3A2085%7D

Where is the bit about Wasserman Shultz being in the firing line?
Where is the Assange link?
Where is the Seth Rich bit?

[Wales-Bales]

Where is the bit about Wasserman Shultz being in the firing line?
Where is the Assange link?
Where is the Seth Rich bit?