The Donald Trump thread

[lardy]

This typifies why Trump is such a dick.

Imagine writing the words ‘little Bruce Springsteen’ in some crass attempt at aggrandising himself as some sort of macho man.

So many Americans (usually the ones with a bit of sense) must cringe at shit like this.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/donal...-rally-2556205

As more of his administration realise the way the wind is blowing and more public support for impeachment increases, the more you'll see trump swinging wildly at anything that moves.

Fine if it's trying to put down a famous person. Not so fine when he's condemning his allies, like the Kurds. Expect more innocent deaths as he goes into his own death throes.

[life on mars]

As more of his administration realise the way the wind is blowing and more public support for impeachment increases, the more you'll see trump swinging wildly at anything that moves.

Fine if it's trying to put down a famous person. Not so fine when he's condemning his allies, like the Kurds. Expect more innocent deaths as he goes into his own death throes.

His outburst are sometimes bewildering in their lack of judgement ,it speaks volumes of how poorly they consider the corrupt democrats are, that they voted in their millions for him and may well again , there is a similar position going on here with an awful government and now a barmy leader who are still more poplar than the main opposition . Wake up Labour .

[Heathblue]

His outburst are sometimes bewildering in their lack of judgement ,it speaks volumes of how poorly they consider the corrupt democrats are, that they voted in their millions for him and may well again , there is a similar position going on here with an awful government and now a barmy leader who are still more poplar than the main opposition . Wake up Labour .

The Democrats fully understand the only way for them in 2020 is impeachment, his rally in Democrat Minneapolis will have then scared shitless, it doesn't matter how stupid he comes across, and some of last night's comments were outrageous, despite the fake polls the Americans have gone all in and decided that MAGA is a better option than the corruption of what's gone on in the past perpetuated by Democrats and Republicans, multi Millionaire socialist Bernie isn't cutting it either, the candidates are so bad that the haggard old boot is mooting a run again.

[lardy]

The Democrats fully understand the only way for them in 2020 is impeachment, his rally in Democrat Minneapolis will have then scared shitless, it doesn't matter how stupid he comes across, and some of last night's comments were outrageous, despite the fake polls the Americans have gone all in and decided that MAGA is a better option than the corruption of what's gone on in the past perpetuated by Democrats and Republicans, multi Millionaire socialist Bernie isn't cutting it either, the candidates are so bad that the haggard old boot is mooting a run again.

I'm interested why you think America has gone all in on MAGA.

In 2016 more people voted for someone else. In 2018, with the highest turn out in over a century, the democrats won the house and it was generally considered a blue wave. Trump's approval has been 35-45 throughout.

The republicans have gone all in on maga, but I don't think America has.

[Heathblue]

I'm interested why you think America has gone all in on MAGA.

In 2016 more people voted for someone else. In 2018, with the highest turn out in over a century, the democrats won the house and it was generally considered a blue wave. Trump's approval has been 35-45 throughout.

The republicans have gone all in on maga, but I don't think America has.

We are currently in 2019
The popular vote was in 2016
Democrats took the Congress in 2018
The Mueller report released in April 2019 with Russia Gate blown out of the water
The current attempted takedown of Trump (UKRAINE) has backfired

The polls of the 2016 result and the Brexit polls puts that one to bed, polls published by MSM say what they want them to say,
the exit polls kinda confirms this, do you still believe polls ?

I think that post the Mueller report, Americans have increased in support of their president as they have witnessed an attack on a president that is unprecedented, and in the time that for many of them, the economy has taken an upturn and has put a bit of cash on the hip, his support is rising within the Black community, I have no idea why he has so many women supporters, the rallies he puts on are packing out football stadiums with 1,000's in overspill outside whilst his rivals
struggle to fill a Tesco extra. Unless the smoking gun (and there is bound to be one lurking in the shadows)
is found, I think he'll walk the next election irrespective what the polls say.
With almost 100% backing of the MSM, where/who are the alternatives?, who do you think can/will beat him?.
To be clear, an opinion not an endorsement, he has never matured from being a novice at the job considering he had little or no political background his twitter, and pressers are becoming more unhinged as time goes on, but that may be that he sees himself to be so far ahead he can say what he wants whilst the song remains the same.

[jon1959]

We are currently in 2019
The popular vote was in 2016
Democrats took the Congress in 2018
The Mueller report released in April 2019 with Russia Gate blown out of the water
The current attempted takedown of Trump (UKRAINE) has backfired

The polls of the 2016 result and the Brexit polls puts that one to bed, polls published by MSM say what they want them to say,
the exit polls kinda confirms this, do you still believe polls ?

I think that post the Mueller report, Americans have increased in support of their president as they have witnessed an attack on a president that is unprecedented, and in the time that for many of them, the economy has taken an upturn and has put a bit of cash on the hip, his support is rising within the Black community, I have no idea why he has so many women supporters, the rallies he puts on are packing out football stadiums with 1,000's in overspill outside whilst his rivals
struggle to fill a Tesco extra. Unless the smoking gun (and there is bound to be one lurking in the shadows)
is found, I think he'll walk the next election irrespective what the polls say.
With almost 100% backing of the MSM, where/who are the alternatives?, who do you think can/will beat him?.
To be clear, an opinion not an endorsement, he has never matured from being a novice at the job considering he had little or no political background his twitter, and pressers are becoming more unhinged as time goes on, but that may be that he sees himself to be so far ahead he can say what he wants whilst the song remains the same.

You may be right that Trump will win in 2020.

You are also right that polls should be distrusted (however much the pollsters claim to have learned and changed since 2016).

But you also appear to believe the polls that you want to believe (black and female support for Trump.... based on polls?)

And your take on the implications of Mueller and the impeachment hearings seems to have no other basis than Trump's own tweets and Gluey's posts (often the same thing). Maybe the effect is just to strengthen the pro and anti feeling about him and his administration - he is either a victim of the MSM and global elites or a corrupt and inept scumbag backed by a spineless Republican party - but if so (and to go back to the polls again) the best evidence is that his support struggles to reach 40% whilst his opponents are consistently around 55%.

[Wales-Bales]

You may be right that Trump will win in 2020.

You are also right that polls should be distrusted (however much the pollsters claim to have learned and changed since 2016).

But you also appear to believe the polls that you want to believe (black and female support for Trump.... based on polls?)

And your take on the implications of Mueller and the impeachment hearings seems to have no other basis than Trump's own tweets and Gluey's posts (often the same thing). Maybe the effect is just to strengthen the pro and anti feeling about him and his administration - he is either a victim of the MSM and global elites or a corrupt and inept scumbag backed by a spineless Republican party - but if so (and to go back to the polls again) the best evidence is that his support struggles to reach 40% whilst his opponents are consistently around 55%.

You'd have a more informed opinion if you avoided all the media spin, and read the source documents for yourself. The way lardy came unstuck should be a lesson for everybody. He tripled-down on Trump Russian Collusion, even though we knew it was all a pile of crap in late 2016/early 2017.

[Heathblue]

You may be right that Trump will win in 2020.

You are also right that polls should be distrusted (however much the pollsters claim to have learned and changed since 2016).

But you also appear to believe the polls that you want to believe (black and female support for Trump.... based on polls?)

And your take on the implications of Mueller and the impeachment hearings seems to have no other basis than Trump's own tweets and Gluey's posts (often the same thing). Maybe the effect is just to strengthen the pro and anti feeling about him and his administration - he is either a victim of the MSM and global elites or a corrupt and inept scumbag backed by a spineless Republican party - but if so (and to go back to the polls again) the best evidence is that his support struggles to reach 40% whilst his opponents are consistently around 55%.

It's not the polls that form my opinion regarding the Black and women supporters of Trump, the amount of women he attracts at his events can be seen with the naked eye although the Black vote is not as visible at these events, the increasing support can be seen on twitter over the past year I think, regarding Mueller I've not gone on a poll, this was the smoking gun that would bring him down, the amount of money, interviews and time spent resulted in a non prosecution / impeachment (not yet anyway) the UKRAINE fiasco seems to have boomeranged, again although there is still a bit of mileage left in this one, as previously said unless the smoking gun (and they have had plenty of attempts) is unveiled, he's a shoe in, he wasn't supposed to win but since his win has had access to the NSA databases, I think he'll be doubling and tripling down on his opponents alleged corruption over the next year and many more Americans will cross the divide, I thought that Michelle Obama was the secret candidate waiting in the wings to step in as I think she would have had more chance than the current mob, but UKRAINE might well go right to Obama when its all shaken down, he does seem quite quiet at the moment and hasn't endorsed his VP.

[lardy]

As more of his administration realise the way the wind is blowing and more public support for impeachment increases, the more you'll see trump swinging wildly at anything that moves.

Fine if it's trying to put down a famous person. Not so fine when he's condemning his allies, like the Kurds. Expect more innocent deaths as he goes into his own death throes.

Looks like this contributor was on the money again.

Sondland now says "oh PRESIDENT Trump. Sorry I thought you meant someone else. Oh yes, I had phone calls about the quid pro quo. I told the Ukraine president's top advisor that resumption of the US aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks"

Who will be next to desert the big man?

[Heisenberg]

Looks like this contributor was on the money again.

Sondland now says "oh PRESIDENT Trump. Sorry I thought you meant someone else. Oh yes, I had phone calls about the quid pro quo. I told the Ukraine president's top advisor that resumption of the US aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks"

Who will be next to desert the big man?

Is this the same Sondland who Trump was praising on Twitter last month?

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Oct 8
I would love to send Ambassador Sondland, a really good man and great American, to testify, but unfortunately he would be testifying before a totally compromised kangaroo court, where Republican’s rights have been taken away, and true facts are not allowed out for the public....

....to see. Importantly, Ambassador Sondland’s tweet, which few report, stated, “I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear: no quid pro quo’s of any kind.” That says it ALL!

What a massive shitshow for Trump

[lardy]

Is this the same Sondland who Trump was praising on Twitter last month?



What a massive shitshow for Trump

It'll certainly make it harder to spin him as a never trumper, which is the only defence they have left.

[Wales-Bales]

Looks like this contributor was on the money again.

They are all deepstate plants and spies. You are watching a school play, so don't get too carried away with yourself. Don't forget you couldn't even see through the Trump Russia Collusion hoax!