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    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    You can look into what 'theory' means in the context of a scientific theory. It's not what you think, as Jon is completely correct to use that word.

    For example, there is a law of gravity, and I'm sure we'd all agree that gravity is real. But there's also a theory of gravity, which explains why it happens. Laws don't change (as gravity is not suddenly going to start acting differently) but theories do get revised as we have more evidence.
    I wasn't querying his use of the word theory, although evolution while considered a theory isn't technically a theory (as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment) at all, it is more accurately an 'idea' - one that has yet to gain any verified traction. The reason it is so popular is because the alternative is for most people, unthinkable.

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    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    I wasn't querying his use of the word theory, although evolution while considered a theory isn't technically a theory (as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment) at all, it is more accurately an 'idea' - one that has yet to gain any verified traction. The reason it is so popular is because the alternative is for most people, unthinkable.

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    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    I wasn't querying his use of the word theory, although evolution while considered a theory isn't technically a theory (as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment) at all, it is more accurately an 'idea' - one that has yet to gain any verified traction. The reason it is so popular is because the alternative is for most people, unthinkable.
    "as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment"

    Can you explain a bit more about what you mean here, please?

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    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    "as a theory such as gravity can be repeatedly demonstrated in a controlled environment"

    Can you explain a bit more about what you mean here, please?
    Each formula contained in this ARTICLE has been discovered because gravity CAN be demonstrated, because it has a foundation in reality and fact.

    Most people would be familiar with G-force, the article includes "In the first equation above, g is referred to as the acceleration of gravity. Its value is 9.8 m/s2 on Earth. That is to say, the acceleration of gravity on the surface of the earth at sea level is 9.8 m/s2. When discussing the acceleration of gravity, it was mentioned that the value of g is dependent upon location".

    In contrast, evolution (although also called a theory) cannot be demonstrated, or proven. Therefore in scientific terms it can only be classed as an idea, or concept. What CAN be seen is speciation which is a variety within cats, dogs etc etc Unfortunately the idea of evolution requires a number of other things, such as one species becoming another, and crucially a solution to the biggest problem, a lack of generational information. And even if you solve that problem, the required organisation of that new information.

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    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    Each formula contained in this ARTICLE has been discovered because gravity CAN be demonstrated, because it has a foundation in reality and fact.

    Most people would be familiar with G-force, the article includes "In the first equation above, g is referred to as the acceleration of gravity. Its value is 9.8 m/s2 on Earth. That is to say, the acceleration of gravity on the surface of the earth at sea level is 9.8 m/s2. When discussing the acceleration of gravity, it was mentioned that the value of g is dependent upon location".

    In contrast, evolution (although also called a theory) cannot be demonstrated, or proven. Therefore in scientific terms it can only be classed as an idea, or concept. What CAN be seen is speciation which is a variety within cats, dogs etc etc Unfortunately the idea of evolution requires a number of other things, such as one species becoming another, and crucially a solution to the biggest problem, a lack of generational information. And even if you solve that problem, the required organisation of that new information.
    You're talking about the law of gravity, not the theory.

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    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    You're talking about the law of gravity, not the theory.
    The reason you can have a law of gravity is because of the reasons given above, you can demonstrate it repeatedly.
    When was macro evolution demonstrated even once? Which would mean it could be classified in the same way?

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    Re: Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

    Quote Originally Posted by truthpaste View Post
    The reason you can have a law of gravity is because of the reasons given above, you can demonstrate it repeatedly.
    When was macro evolution demonstrated even once? Which would mean it could be classified in the same way?
    So you are saying that a scientific theory is accurate? It is a reliable explanation of what we observe?

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