Labour and anti semitism

[Nick]

You posted that homily a while back. Others seem to have tried to advance the debate by adding views, opinions and sometimes facts. Cutting and pasting what you previously said like some kind of broken record like its an innate truth doesn't really add much.

And how have you exactly advanced the debate? Personal attacks don't actually add to the debate.

Unless, of course, you are a member of the Labour Party, where for many it appears to be de rigeur.

[Auntie Andy]

And how have you exactly advanced the debate? Personal attacks don't actually add to the debate.

Unless, of course, you are a member of the Labour Party, where for many it appears to be de rigeur.

Do you agree Nick that this is a society problem and not a labour problem? Why would it JUST be a labour problem? Aren’t us labour voters just a cross section of society

[Nick]

Do you agree Nick that this is a society problem and not a labour problem? Why would it JUST be a labour problem? Aren’t us labour voters just a cross section of society

Racism can be found across all of society. This particular problem with anti-semitism manifests itself within the hard left of the Labour Party and as it is the hard left of the Labour party than now totally controls the problem then I would suggest that anti-semitism is far more of a problem within the Labour party than any other political party and with society generally.

[Auntie Andy]

Racism can be found across all of society. This particular problem with anti-semitism manifests itself within the hard left of the Labour Party and as it is the hard left of the Labour party than now totally controls the problem then I would suggest that anti-semitism is far more of a problem within the Labour party than any other political party and with society generally.

Can you give me facts and figures to back this up please?

[Nick]

Can you give me facts and figures to back this up please?

Find them your self

No don't bother if you are going to come up with Mickey Mouse figure like the ones in your OP

[Auntie Andy]

Find them your self

No don't bother if you are going to come up with Mickey Mouse figure like the ones in your OP

What do you think of this then Tory Boy.

https://twitter.com/iamalrightjack/s...488668673?s=21

[Nick]

What do you think of this then Tory Boy.

https://twitter.com/iamalrightjack/s...488668673?s=21

Try to keep it civil, if at all possible.

[Nick]

What do you think of this then Tory Boy.

https://twitter.com/iamalrightjack/s...488668673?s=21

I'm alright Jack twitter post.

[cyril evans awaydays]

And how have you exactly advanced the debate? Personal attacks don't actually add to the debate.

Unless, of course, you are a member of the Labour Party, where for many it appears to be de rigeur.

You are right. I was just making an initial observation on your contribution thus far which seemed a bit simplistic and repetitive. I absolutely agree that personal attacks add little to the discussion and we can all be judged against that standard.

As for the substance of the discussion I think the Labour Party under Corbyn is all over the place in managing this issue and have gone on record in other threads to say so. The facile and personal interventions of Len McCluskey just exaggerate the point and until this is recognised the issue will not go away. It is perfectly permissible to differentiate between the scandalous extremes of the Israeli state under Netenyahu , it's behavour in undermining peaceful engagement and development of the Palestinian state, his personal corruption and its acceptance by other supportive nations without descending into anti-semitism. Yet a Labour Party founded in good part with Jewish input and with anti-semetic ideals finds itself a century or so on having a leadership that is unable to defend itself from accusations it would normally be making against other parties.

I am not sure that makes me a member of the Labour Party but if you have something similar to add other than a chant then please feel free to add.

[Nick]

You are right. I was just making an initial observation on your contribution thus far which seemed a bit simplistic and repetitive. I absolutely agree that personal attacks add little to the discussion and we can all be judged against that standard.

As for the substance of the discussion I think the Labour Party under Corbyn is all over the place in managing this issue and have gone on record in other threads to say so. The facile and personal interventions of Len McCluskey just exaggerate the point and until this is recognised the issue will not go away. It is perfectly permissible to differentiate between the scandalous extremes of the Israeli state under Netenyahu , it's behavour in undermining peaceful engagement and development of the Palestinian state, his personal corruption and its acceptance by other supportive nations without descending into anti-semitism. Yet a Labour Party founded in good part with Jewish input and with anti-semetic ideals finds itself a century or so on having a leadership that is unable to defend itself from accusations it would normally be making against other parties.

I am not sure that makes me a member of the Labour Party but if you have something similar to add other than a chant then please feel free to add.

Yes.

Good post.