Political post.. @Yescymru

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That's not what you've just argued. You've cited England as our partners. The UK is NI, Wales, Scotland and England.

yes of course, but this Welsh independence movement is about being free from England, not about being free.

The reunification of Ireland is closer now than ever before.

I can't see the unionists ever agreeing to that, but you clearly think otherwise

Scotland will likely become its own nation state.

Likewise, I doubt this will happen in my time

So investing in closer ties to an old-boys-network of old public school chums doesn't sound that appealing.

Have you actually been to England? its got a bit more about it than the old boys network.

But surely you aren't equating the EU and all the benefits of freedom of movement, trade etc with a trip across the Severn Bridge to Bristol (which, by-the-way, we could do anyway, and then decide to continue on to any European city to 'trade' freely if we so desired before - as the UK - we put the barrel in our mouth and pulled the trigger)?

I'm pro EU, you're preaching to the choir

I do wonder if people like yourself have ever worked in other European countries, speak any other languages or work in a profession that is Pan-European, global?

been there done that, perhaps if you understood I'm for less borders not more, i'm for people not state, you might appreciate why I don't think splitting into smaller and smaller political entities is a good thing.

Millions of people have had their European Citizenship stripped from them. I gave up feeling British after 2016. I now only consider myself Welsh. I have zero identity with any Westminster government anymore.

I'm still Welsh, British and European. how can anyone take that away from me, since its a feeling. Perhaps you can explain?

I want Wales to break away from crown, church and state-run systems.

so, anarchy, libertarian in the classical sense.

There is something else too - you keep banging on about feasibility studies and the fact that the M4 bypass isn't going ahead. Two things - feasibility studies are just that, to find out if something is feasible, the other is that they can 'save' a lot of money too. It was decided that it wasn't feasible and I (and many others - see what I did there) am really pleased about that from an environmental point of view. We need more affordable social-housing in Wales and investment in public transport links way before an M4 bypass. We need to make sure that every decision is an environmental one first and start thinking of future generations instead of continuing to fck things up like this https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ke-way-for-hs2

I've not mentioned feasibility studies at all. I was just saying that what was in my mind a sensible decision (and I say this as someone who travels to and from my office in Bristol regularly) was to improve the road network. you're not going to get Mr UK out of his car, as its too ingrained in his psyche.

If that isn't enough. Try reminding yourself that very few people thought the re-unification of Germany, the abolition of apartheid, the fall of the USSR were ever possible. All these things have happened in my lifetime.

agreed, but you're talking about oppressive regimes that stifled people's freedoms. We just don't have that here in Wales. most are too busy wondering who's going to be ejected from a house/beach/jungle/song contest to take to the streets to make a difference

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yes of course, but this Welsh independence movement is about being free from England, not about being free.


I can't see the unionists ever agreeing to that, but you clearly think otherwise


Likewise, I doubt this will happen in my time


Have you actually been to England? its got a bit more about it than the old boys network.


I'm pro EU, you're preaching to the choir


been there done that, perhaps if you understood I'm for less borders not more, i'm for people not state, you might appreciate why I don't think splitting into smaller and smaller political entities is a good thing.


I'm still Welsh, British and European. how can anyone take that away from me, since its a feeling. Perhaps you can explain?


so, anarchy, libertarian in the classical sense.


I've not mentioned feasibility studies at all. I was just saying that what was in my mind a sensible decision (and I say this as someone who travels to and from my office in Bristol regularly) was to improve the road network. you're not going to get Mr UK out of his car, as its too ingrained in his psyche.

agreed, but you're talking about oppressive regimes that stifled people's freedoms. We just don't have that here in Wales. most are too busy wondering who's going to be ejected from a house/beach/jungle/song contest to take to the streets to make a difference

Seriously, I appreciate you going to trouble of addressing these points and will ignore the "whateverrr" but just try to not sling insults.

I honestly can't go through everything but will just say, things are veering off into other directions and I don't want to hijack this thread.

For the record, there's absolutely no anti-English bone in my body. I've been educated, lived and worked in England over the years. Let's not make this anti-English when it isn't. I cringe when we chant anti-English stuff (especially as we have an English manager, English players and play in the English league).

I've never really thought of myself as anything other than humanitarian.

I don't deny that travel by car to Bristol everyday gives you a different perspective but as someone who hasn't driven for over ten years because of disability, we can all adapt. I love motorsport but and football but it will never be at the expense of the environment.

And no, of course I wasn't comparing Wales to those examples of world change. I was just highlighting that we have no idea what's going to happen and anything is possible. It's both exciting and frightening.

I can no longer easily travel and work/live in Europe. Nothing you say will change that. That has been taken away from me. I'm angry about it.