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    You don't know but thought you would point out that she mentioned Muslims anyway?
    Do you know?

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    Do you know?
    I'm not the one trying to score political points by bringing up that she mentioned Muslims am I? do you think she knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    I'm not the one trying to score political points by bringing up that she mentioned Muslims am I? do you think she knows?
    The whole speech is based on the idea that feminists are concentrating on non-issues like equality at work and conveniently ignoring the major problems that women face. She lists these as Sharia Law and the NYE sex attacks in Germany.

    You said you agree with her, do you agree that Sharia Law is the major problem facing women in western countries such as France?

    I don't know if I trust her to tell the truth about the existence of Sharia law in France. I can't decide that from a 3 minute video but I do know that similarly believable people have made exaggerations about it in this country.

    Her comments about abortion are compelling and poignent on a personal level but it is hard to determine what she believes in.

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    The whole speech is based on the idea that feminists are concentrating on non-issues like equality at work and conveniently ignoring the major problems that women face. She lists these as Sharia Law and the NYE sex attacks in Germany.

    You said you agree with her, do you agree that Sharia Law is the major problem facing women in western countries such as France?

    I don't know if I trust her to tell the truth about the existence of Sharia law in France. I can't decide that from a 3 minute video but I do know that similarly believable people have made exaggerations about it in this country.

    Her comments about abortion are compelling and poignent on a personal level but it is hard to determine what she believes in.
    I liked the way she drew attention to the literally unholy alliance between radical Islamists, LGBTQs and Feminists. Never in the history of humanity have three more disparate groups been drawn together. And you can bet your bottom Euro that most Muslims despise feminists and abhor LGBTQs.

    One question Eric: in your opinion, is the notion of Sharia Law becoming more or less popular, in absolute or percentage terms, amongst Western Europe's muslims?

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    I liked the way she drew attention to the literally unholy alliance between radical Islamists, LGBTQs and Feminists. Never in the history of humanity have three more disparate groups been drawn together. And you can bet your bottom Euro that most Muslims despise feminists and abhor LGBTQs.

    One question Eric: in your opinion, is the notion of Sharia Law becoming more or less popular, in absolute or percentage terms, amongst Western Europe's muslims?
    I am guessing since you are asking that there is a poll that shows it rising. I would imagine that to be more likely a result of a changing population than a hardening of views. I see the value in facts and I have never seen a coherent factual article or piece about Sharia Law, it is always soundbites, scaremongering and rhetoric.

    Is this the bit where we all pretend that everyone is teaming up to come after 'the white man'? I just don't see it myself.

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    I am guessing since you are asking that there is a poll that shows it rising. I would imagine that to be more likely a result of a changing population than a hardening of views. I see the value in facts and I have never seen a coherent factual article or piece about Sharia Law, it is always soundbites, scaremongering and rhetoric.

    Is this the bit where we all pretend that everyone is teaming up to come after 'the white man'? I just don't see it myself.
    I don't have any facts about Sharia law. They are probably hard to come by as many muslims may be reluctant to admit they adhere to a controversial (in Western Europe) system that is at odds with the constitutional/common/civil/statutory law of the host country.

    Stacey Dooley's BBC(!) documentary about her return to Luton did feature her discussing Sharia law with some muslims. It's about 4 mins into this clip:

    Last edited by severncity; 07-02-17 at 21:46.

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    Well, that video will warm the heart of any multiculturalist around here, and concern everyone else. Everyone else will include all the thick, racist, unsophisticated (perm any two from three) Brexit voters who don't fancy living with neighbours who dress like Life of Brian extras who refuse to integrate, and prefer the sovereignty of Parliament to that of less accountable European bureaucrats.

    Turning to Donald Trump, the agenda in the USA appears to want to make the country chaotic and perhaps ungovernable judging by the unremitting attacks from the corporate media. I have no doubt he is a willing stooge, but will be surprised if they choose that convoluted process to invoke economic collapse when they can wait for the election of Wilders or Le Pen or both in the next few months to instigate a Euro currency crisis that'll infect all Western economies.

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    Re: These Trump demonstrators

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    The whole speech is based on the idea that feminists are concentrating on non-issues like equality at work and conveniently ignoring the major problems that women face. She lists these as Sharia Law and the NYE sex attacks in Germany.

    You said you agree with her, do you agree that Sharia Law is the major problem facing women in western countries such as France?

    I don't know if I trust her to tell the truth about the existence of Sharia law in France. I can't decide that from a 3 minute video but I do know that similarly believable people have made exaggerations about it in this country.

    Her comments about abortion are compelling and poignent on a personal level but it is hard to determine what she believes in.
    I agree that feminists are concentrating on non-issues in general, not just in France, I can only go on what I'm told the same as you about Sharia law but as far as I'm aware women living under SL in this country don't have the same rights when it's comes to family law, divorce, inheritance ect, if that is the case then we have two lots of women living in the same country with different rights? surely you agree that the feminists should be addressing that? instead they moan about the price of tampons, slag off men and harass scientists that don't agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    I agree that feminists are concentrating on non-issues in general, not just in France, I can only go on what I'm told the same as you about Sharia law but as far as I'm aware women living under SL in this country don't have the same rights when it's comes to family law, divorce, inheritance ect, if that is the case then we have two lots of women living in the same country with different rights? surely you agree that the feminists should be addressing that? instead they moan about the price of tampons, slag off men and harass scientists that don't agree with them.
    If it is prevalent and allowing people to circumvent or overwrite the law of the land then it should be legislated against. I just don't see the value of rhetoric. If it is a problem, say where and how many people it is affecting then fix it so that everyone follows the same rules.

    People tend to notice what affects them, Sharia Law doesn't affect them so they don't mention it.

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