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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Quick google says he joined us from an under 10's team in Bristol and hes an inner city kid.

    Good luck to the boy, could be life changing for him and his family. Not his fault the rules are a joke, wherby the big clubs can just come and take your best talent for 250k and sell them on for millions. Lets hope a decent sell on fee, if any, has been agreed so we dont get stung like when they took Rabbi Matondo.
    Agree.

    Sort of on topic (ish) - I meant to ask you the other day. Do you think (if true of course) that Isaak Davies should have gone to Burnley when there was supposed interest? My view is that he should have. May have made a big difference to both him and the club. We won't know. But, in light of events at CCFC since, just interested in your take as I know you have followed his career closely.

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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Agree.

    Sort of on topic (ish) - I meant to ask you the other day. Do you think (if true of course) that Isaak Davies should have gone to Burnley when there was supposed interest? My view is that he should have. May have made a big difference to both him and the club. We won't know. But, in light of events at CCFC since, just interested in your take as I know you have followed his career closely.
    Probably in hindsight for his own career it woukd have been better if hed made the move. However, hes a local lad, whos family are City supporters, hes been with the club since hes 7 or 8, and it was probably his dream to play for City. Hed broken into the team the last year or so and along with Colwill it finally looked they were the two from the academy most likley to become regulars for the first team. Last season obviusly didnt play out as planned in the end for one reason or other, i dont hink injuries helped and then hes been frozen out by Bulut without being given much of a chance pre-season.

    From what I hear and the snippets of interviews ive seen hes absolutely loving it out in Belgium. Will we ever see him a City shirt again? I have my doubts. Even if Bulut has a change of heart will Davies want to come back and play a bit part now hes getting regular first team action and played in his preffered position.

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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Probably in hindsight for his own career it woukd have been better if hed made the move. However, hes a local lad, whos family are City supporters, hes been with the club since hes 7 or 8, and it was probably his dream to play for City. Hed broken into the team the last year or so and along with Colwill it finally looked they were the two from the academy most likley to become regulars for the first team. Last season obviusly didnt play out as planned in the end for one reason or other, i dont hink injuries helped and then hes been frozen out by Bulut without being given much of a chance pre-season.

    From what I hear and the snippets of interviews ive seen hes absolutely loving it out in Belgium. Will we ever see him a City shirt again? I have my doubts. Even if Bulut has a change of heart will Davies want to come back and play a bit part now hes getting regular first team action and played in his preffered position.
    Where would Isaak fit in this current system?

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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    Where would Isaak fit in this current system?
    He probably wouldnt as Bulut likes someone bigger upfront as the lone striker but that wasnt the question I was asked.

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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Probably in hindsight for his own career it woukd have been better if hed made the move. However, hes a local lad, whos family are City supporters, hes been with the club since hes 7 or 8, and it was probably his dream to play for City. Hed broken into the team the last year or so and along with Colwill it finally looked they were the two from the academy most likley to become regulars for the first team. Last season obviusly didnt play out as planned in the end for one reason or other, i dont hink injuries helped and then hes been frozen out by Bulut without being given much of a chance pre-season.

    From what I hear and the snippets of interviews ive seen hes absolutely loving it out in Belgium. Will we ever see him a City shirt again? I have my doubts. Even if Bulut has a change of heart will Davies want to come back and play a bit part now hes getting regular first team action and played in his preffered position.
    Cheers for that. It's great that he's loving Belgium. I think from just a non-football point of view, it's great he's getting that life experience too.

    Re. him not fitting into a Bulut team. Yeah. Agree. I think there are a few Championship clubs that he'd get first-team football with. Same for Colwill (I know he's getting it now but I still think there's been a lot of wasted years for both players with us). We don't seem to appreciate them as much as we should early on and by the time we do get them playing, it never feels right. I know I'm being subjective and I can't really back it up other than it's just a feeling.

    Re. some of the other things going on in this thread (which is a really good discussion and very interesting - I'm learning a lot) this popped into my inbox as I was reading your answers and the rest of the poster's comments. It seems a far cry from Man City looking after players the way they do and must be a factor in decision-making. I may be getting the wrong end of the stick here but isn't this kind of like the George Best days or am I missing something?

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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Cheers for that. It's great that he's loving Belgium. I think from just a non-football point of view, it's great he's getting that life experience too.

    Re. him not fitting into a Bulut team. Yeah. Agree. I think there are a few Championship clubs that he'd get first-team football with. Same for Colwill (I know he's getting it now but I still think there's been a lot of wasted years for both players with us). We don't seem to appreciate them as much as we should early on and by the time we do get them playing, it never feels right. I know I'm being subjective and I can't really back it up other than it's just a feeling.

    Re. some of the other things going on in this thread (which is a really good discussion and very interesting - I'm learning a lot) this popped into my inbox as I was reading your answers and the rest of the poster's comments. It seems a far cry from Man City looking after players the way they do and must be a factor in decision-making. I may be getting the wrong end of the stick here but isn't this kind of like the George Best days or am I missing something?

    https://newsletter.cardiffcityfc.co....hALi_-IvDMfp5A
    I’ve not seen a huge amount of Davies, I really thought he was going to be the next big thing but then he had a few injuries I think and didn’t really push on.

    Why could he not fit into the Grant role though under Bulut?

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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    I’ve not seen a huge amount of Davies, I really thought he was going to be the next big thing but then he had a few injuries I think and didn’t really push on.

    Why could he not fit into the Grant role though under Bulut?
    I'll be honest and say I'm one of the people that no longer understand Bulut so I can't answer that. As JR mentioned, his injury changed things. I do know that at one point I was very excited to see him playing and always felt he was the 'the one'. I can't back it up with any analyses but I just don't see him as a Bulut player; which makes sense as neither does Bulut! Another 'feeling' for me would be that he's better off away from Cardiff right now. But I'm one of the miserable fans who hasn't been happy with the club or our football for a while so don't listen to me!

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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    I'll be honest and say I'm one of the people that no longer understand Bulut so I can't answer that. As JR mentioned, his injury changed things. I do know that at one point I was very excited to see him playing and always felt he was the 'the one'. I can't back it up with any analyses but I just don't see him as a Bulut player; which makes sense as neither does Bulut! Another 'feeling' for me would be that he's better off away from Cardiff right now. But I'm one of the miserable fans who hasn't been happy with the club or our football for a while so don't listen to me!
    Not sure I totally agree, I think Davies had a poor stop start season last year. I think a loan away was spot on for him, he needed games. If he’s good enough I think he can fill the Grant role. I think it’s a bit harsh to neither does Bulut, he only had a pre-season with him and alike King they need games.

    I hope both can come back next season, if up to it.

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    Re: Cardiff City set to lose another youngster to Man City

    Quote Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo View Post
    Not sure I totally agree, I think Davies had a poor stop start season last year. I think a loan away was spot on for him, he needed games. If he’s good enough I think he can fill the Grant role. I think it’s a bit harsh to neither does Bulut, he only had a pre-season with him and alike King they need games.

    I hope both can come back next season, if up to it.
    pretty sure if bulut is with us next season davies will be too

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